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Softlywinged, I'm far more concerned with Trump's continued praise for an autocratic Russian dictator than theories by doctors diagnosing Hillary from Youtube snippets.

 

You do realize that Putin is a "strong" leader only because he kills and imprisons anyone who disagrees with him? That there is no freedom of anything in Russia?

 

I don't like Clinton at all, and will not vote for her (or Trump), but my reasons have nothing to do with any so-called health problems she may have.

 

Let's start having presidential candidates required by law to release all of their Tax records going back 10 years, and all of their health records, going back at least 30 years. In fact, perhaps we should require every candidate to undergo an extensive health evaluation when they announce for President...full workups in a diagnostic facility, including mental health screenings. Then, perhaps, we wouldn't have to rely on Youtube diagnostics to gauge the health of candidates.

 

Seriously, this has all gotten over the top ridiculous. We are talking about two candidates who are 70 years old. Do you really expect 70 year olds to be in perfect health? The life expectancy of a 70 year old today is 85. These two people will probably die within the next 15 years. The American people have lost their minds.

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Thump's health seems to be superb - just look at his campaign and travel schedule.

 

I am younger than he is, and in generally good health, but I think I would have trouble keeping up with him.

 

It should be obvious to everyone by now that she has committed at least two crimes:

Mishandling of confidential information, and obstruction of justice. The pay for play, selling of access could be a third.

And charity fraud, a fourth. I think there will be even more crimes discovered soon - maybe through Assange's leaks.

 

Obviously, she is desperate to become President, so she can issues pardons, and cover-up the wrong doing.

 

There are still Americans in positions of power who will do all they can to block her, so I do not see it happening.

In fact, I think her campaign will unravel very fast now - if the media turns on her, as they seem ready to do.

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Softlywinged, I'm far more concerned with Trump's continued praise for an autocratic Russian dictator than theories by doctors diagnosing Hillary from Youtube snippets.

 

You do realize that Putin is a "strong" leader only because he kills and imprisons anyone who disagrees with him? That there is no freedom of anything in Russia?

 

I don't like Clinton at all, and will not vote for her (or Trump), but my reasons have nothing to do with any so-called health problems she may have.

 

Let's start having presidential candidates required by law to release all of their Tax records going back 10 years, and all of their health records, going back at least 30 years. In fact, perhaps we should require every candidate to undergo an extensive health evaluation when they announce for President...full workups in a diagnostic facility, including mental health screenings. Then, perhaps, we wouldn't have to rely on Youtube diagnostics to gauge the health of candidates.

 

Seriously, this has all gotten over the top ridiculous. We are talking about two candidates who are 70 years old. Do you really expect 70 year olds to be in perfect health? The life expectancy of a 70 year old today is 85. These two people will probably die within the next 15 years. The American people have lost their minds.

LOL Thunter, step out of the dark ages. We were taught to fear Russia from kindergarten on. It was all part of the Illuminati plan. The people love Putin and his approval rating is in the high 80's/90's. He's admired by many. When the people talk about the horrors of communism and all the oppression they speak about it in the past term. Have you heard or seen the great things Putin has done for his country? Everything Trump is saying such as "if America can't get a great deal with other countries, we'll do like Reagan did, we'll walk away" is EXACTLY what Putin is doing/saying.

 

Plus if you haven't seen all the MANY video's where Putin is talking to American's about our government trying to start war and how they created ISIS etc., then you're getting your info from MSM. Putin has been just as prominent in whistle blowing as Julian Assange has been telling us what our government's been up to. Donald Trump's stance on the whole thing is peace through strength...not to go to war, but to deter anyone from thinking America weak; which is what Obama has been aiming to do.

 

This is yesterday's speech, he speaks of the constitution and the people being back in control. Why don't you humor me and start this at the 15 minute mark and tell me you still feel the same way at the end, would ya? Just humor me, please?

 

 

 

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Astounding. Putin is a murderer, an autocratic ruler of a country that enjoys none of America's freedoms. Like, well, saying what we think on a forum such as this. Do you really want to live in a country where if you say something the "President" doesn't like you will be put in prison or killed? I can't believe I'm hearing this nonsense. Putin is a bad guy. A really bad guy. He's doing bad things NOW. You think he has become a saint since his KGB days? Good, grief.

 

I'm not sure how Americans have become so delusional. Too many people have died in the effort to defeat dictators and communists to simply lay down now and give our freedom away.

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Astounding. Putin is a murderer, an autocratic ruler of a country that enjoys none of America's freedoms. Like, well, saying what we think on a forum such as this. Do you really want to live in a country where if you say something the "President" doesn't like you will be put in prison or killed? I can't believe I'm hearing this nonsense. Putin is a bad guy. A really bad guy. He's doing bad things NOW. You think he has become a saint since his KGB days? Good, grief.

 

I'm not sure how Americans have become so delusional. Too many people have died in the effort to defeat dictators and communists to simply lay down now and give our freedom away.

WHAT FREEDOM??? we gave it all away!!! Maybe you should read up on NDAA and what our government deems a terrorist and realize we have no more rights than Russia does. Difference's are astronomical, the people love Putin and what their government has done for their country and we.....well, we're not real happy with ours are we? The same laws apply to US citizens...please stop relying on MSM to base your findings on.

 

Here, straight from Russian's mouths off their own blogs:

 

Konstantin Karyaev
Konstantin Karyaev, I am Russian.
Written Jul 9
You could believe me or not, but even in Russia there’s no problem with expressing opinions on Putin openly. The whole Radio station (called “Эхо Москвы”, Echo of Moscow) and TV channel (called “Дождь”, Rain) are dedicated to anti-Putin propaganda, and they are freely transmitting their signal. Those are federal broadcasting stations, not mentionied local ones, especially strong in Ekaterinburg (city with more than million of inhabitants) and some other cities/regions.
What is forbidden is the idea of overthrowing the goverment and disrupting the social institutes. National chauvinism and raising hatred is also forbidden - to avoid the civil war or civil unrest. You know, we also have democratic procedures (elections and such), so only those elections are the supposed way of affecting the country policy. Not killing the President, you know.
And if you doubt those procedures, first let’s talk about choice between Clinton (the second Clinton in power) and Trump (the son of a millionaire) as a sign of established democracy in USA. Ah, and then let’s also count together how many Bushes were the presidents and/or pretendents for presidency. When you will persuade me that it is very democratic, we can discuss Russian elections in more detail.
The real problem with most of those “raising voice against Putin” is that they are either being financed from abroad or have been involved in corruption and theft from the municipal and/or federal budgets. Or just psychos trying to raise hatred and encourage terrorism. That means that they are no good for the country nor the people. It’s reasonable, isn’t it?
PS: Regarding Neumann’s comment:
1) the Navalny is a thief (and was financed by USA as well, so there we have a very nice “double hit”!). According to the USA laws, he would be sentenced at least on the second item (as a foreign agent not registered as such legally), and on the first item he would be sentenced in any country with established code of law.
2) “Russian man sentenced for repost” was not “reposting kittens”. He reposted the man, who, amongst other, once wrote: “Убивать, убивать, убивать! Залить кровью всю Россию, не давать ни малейшей пощады никому, постараться непременно устроить хотя бы один ядерный взрыв на территории РФ (Kill, kill, kill! Cover whole Russia with blood, have no mercy to anyone, try to set up at least a single nuclear explosion on the territory of Russian Federation)”.
How would you treat a man urging to set up a nuclear explosion in the center New York? I would suggest to put such person in prison immediately and forbid him from freedom of speech.
Владимир Гордеев (Vladimir Gordeev), I'm native Russian
Written Jul 10
UPD: Sorry, I didn’t noticed that question was about Russians in US. I answered about Russians in Russia. My answer is off topic.
As Konstantin Karyaev had pointed out, there is no problem with openly expressing negative opinions about Putin. Person might be persecuted or fined if he publish something that contains:
Child porn.
Information about drugs (where to buy, how to make).
Hate speech, to person or any group of people. Calls for murdering.
Calls for violent government overthrowing.
Other forms of extremism.
There is completely no problem in expressing negative views about Putin.
To answer the question directly: of course I’m not scared to express opinion about Vladimir Putin, I live in a free country.
But I see him as a very good president that did a lot for country (on par with Peter the Great, probably) and I simply don’t have negative view that you probably wanted me to express.
Or maybe I’m not smart? Well…
Sean Patrick Maiorca
Written Jul 11
I’m an American Orthodox Christian who speaks a little bit of Russian.
In my experience Russians aren’t much for discussing politics , however the few times that poltics do come up- I have heard Russians at the Church coffee hour or on a forum both condemn and support Putin.
While there is a tendency in the West to paint Putin as an absolute monster- the reality is one of the better Russian leaders when it comes to human rights.
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Why not become a member like you are here and see first hand like others reading Acore? Although some of the things you say about America could lead readers from other countries astray ;)

 

https://www.quora.com/topic/Russian-Ethnicity-and-People

 

 

 

 

 

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Looks like Dave Schmidt's got a new web site : The Sedona Connection Foundation

Humanitarian Projects SIGN UP

 

http://thesedonaconnectionfoundation.com/humanitarian-projects-sign-up/

 

Yes, that is for Round 2 of Dave's private currency exchange. Round 1 participants parted with their currency a year ago and have yet to see anything in return. The latest excuse is that the banks were hacked. It will be interesting to see how long they can drag this out. If it follows the pattern set by Jerzy Babkowski and Landa China Global, it could go on for years, waiting for those Royals to send the cash. The curious part is that Dave says Round 2 won't proceed until Round 1 is completed.

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right? And the others will 'rush' to get their money turned in so they'll be next on the list and since DS is sole controller this ought to be interesting.

But when did round 1 take place? Didn't Schmidt leave that up to the Ambassador because Schmidt didn't have time to take care of those? I see at least two people involved in this scam....and I just mentioned them.

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Oh dear !

 

 

Yes, that is for Round 2 of Dave's private currency exchange. Round 1 participants parted with their currency a year ago and have yet to see anything in return. The latest excuse is that the banks were hacked. It will be interesting to see how long they can drag this out. If it follows the pattern set by Jerzy Babkowski and Landa China Global, it could go on for years, waiting for those Royals to send the cash. The curious part is that Dave says Round 2 won't proceed until Round 1 is completed.

 

Do you see ... DO YOU SEE... what corruption is being spawned by the Clinton Foundation!

 

The Sedona Connection Foundation

 

Others are starting "charitable" Foundations, think that they can steal from them too.

We need to to PABITB

put a (b----) in the (b---) to put an end to this corruption.

Or at least put her in Prison

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I had a dream Trey Gowdy ended up being our president....was a good dream.

Didn't this all start with the Amba's foundation that he'd attend DS seminars and people did their pitch plan? Dave said he didn't have time for that and that's when the TVOP and GMOP and all that nonsense started and then Dave went another direction and the Amba went another direction and supposedly Schmidt broke away from the Amba and DS does a full circle.....just trying to see the scam and how they're playing this out, there's no way they couldn't have without being partners at one time

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Trey as Prez? yeah, he'd clean up the mess

 

So would this WONDERFUL WOMAN - what a Spitfire !

She even bought a hammer. Haha

 

Justice W/Judge Jeanine 9/10/16 - Clinton Foundation - Clinton Regrets Deplorables Remarks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owNSntjZZYQ

 

Comments

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What a wonderful Italian spitfire is our favorite judge ! Is Hillary so deluded that she thinks her own LYING AND LAWBREAKING make no difference to voters' preferences? Instead, Hillary accuses those who oppose her of being PREJUDICED against her favorite victims!? We-the-people have every right to be strongly against Hillary's extreme arrogant and her above-the law form of leadership. Calling us names makes us dislike her even more.

 

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Desperation , on the cusp of madness... Not Forgiven. I will not forgive you for that one. Is she that out of touch?

This woman apparently does not realize that she still has to win the election. Very obviously she is in big trouble.

 

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This Bitch Hillary Clinton is so out of touch with reality, its ridiculous . Shes been hanging out with the Super WEALTHY , since this campaign began , fundraising money , while Trump is out with the common people... but she is quick to call all his supporters deplorable, racist... shes a hypocritical two faced bitch ...& the American people know it.

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If your desire is to live in a communist dictatorship, please move to Russia and have a nice life.

 

I'm done here.

 

Haha.

WTF are you talking about?

(A "communist dictatorship" would be sought be someone who learned from Saul Alinsky)

 

The Truth About Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals

 

There are no Hillary supporters here.

Or if there are, they are welcome to defend her with intelligent arguments, not labels

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Conspiracy Theories

9-12-16 – WAS THE STORY OF JESUS A 250-300-YEAR-OLD REPEAT?

Published on Sep 11, 2016

After only a few hours sleep last night, I was wide awake. Finally, I went to the computer and noticed a recommended video by Bill Donanhue, long time minister of a church I visited on the New Jersey shore in 1983 before I moved to Florida. The title was Jesus Twin Mithra. Donahue's webpage is www.hiddenmeanings.com. He has always been an iconoclast, which is why I relate to him so well. While I don't always agree with his conclusions, he provides much food for thought. This video (www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBNKS5IftHo) is no exception, especially at a time in my life when I'm taking a fresh look at long-held beliefs. The similarities between the stories of Mithra and Jesus Christ are uncanny. Don't believe me? Watch the video for yourself. Was the story of the Christian Jesus merely a repeat of one that occurred 2-3 centuries earlier with nearly identical descriptions?

 

(someone should tell Ron about this video - the pattern of comparisons is even older):

 

Jesus vs. Horus - a quick comparison (& debunking)

 

/ longer discussion /

Is Jesus Based on the Pagan God Horus?

 

(there may be an even longer history to this story)

 

Was Jesus Christ a Copy of Horus, Mithras, Dionysus, Krishna and Other Pagan gods?

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The most bizarre election - reaching back 50 years to JFK ?

 

DEEP STATE OCCULT ELECTION 2016 - DARK JOURNALIST & DR. JOSEPH FARRELL

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Archie Bunker mentality. Tells people to step out of dark ages while swimming in it. I know I pushed all the buttons and if I offended anyone I'm sorry -but- I've seen where I'm on and the only member on while several guests on at same time and I won't let un-researched, 1960's politic's spread on here without defending the truth in case someone reading is from another country

 

 

If your desire is to live in a communist dictatorship, please move to Russia and have a nice life.

I'm done here.

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Her Health now "the main issue", which could break her campaign

 

MSM Forced To Admit Hillary Is Unfit For Office

 

FB is still censoring hastags related to her health problems

 

But with people now deserting her en-mass, they are openly wondering what the DNC will do

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All of you have made me so happy that you actually saw through Hillarys game and jumped to Trump!! Thank you for taking the time to actually listen to him so that you might see WHY the left and some of the right are against him. The establishment doesnt want him in there for a reason. Because their con game will end. Getting rich off of us will end. Globalism will end. And people will be investigated and tried for treason.

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They probably didn't have much choice, considering how the DNC is scrambling over what to do about Hillary

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They will have to eliminate her, or sideline her very soon. They might give her a chance to debate Trump, or maybe not that long

=== ===

 

"Pneumonia" = another Clinton Lie ?

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haha indeed.....no time to rehydrate her and give her antibiotic's and she's already waving out the window that she's fine....people have been pretty stupid about believing what the MSM is telling them but with all of Trump's message about the lying media even they are waking up.








Here's a link that's extensive about her

http://www.vidzette.com/

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The Lesbian Witch's 47% moment

(Like 2012's arrogant rich man, Romney, NOW the arrogant closet-lesbian, Hillary, has destroyed her own campaign)

 

The photo for that Video, with her in blue glasses - looks like her own Body Double, or a fun-house version

 

Hillary-Blueglasses_zpsjcuglszu.jpg

 

Or maybe it is Elton John - another popular guest for, cough-cough-lesbian, Ellen (who represents HRC's ultimate core)

 

BTW Scott Adams thinks Trump will win by a landslide, and by the Nov. 8th, it will be like he is running unopposed

(again, I repeat my own prediction from many most ago - my intuition has informed me, she will get 23%)

 

 

Hey, go ahead and call me a "Deplorable" (like David Knight, below) for opposing this Lesbianic witch.

I do not oppose her for being a lesbian, it is just a small part of her despicable package.

The problem is all things she has done and will do (as she is instructed by her puppetmasters) who want to use a

President Hillary Rodham Clinton to destroy our once-great country, and its once-great culture.

Hillary's 47% Moment

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Do you think she cares that she has put people's health at risk?

 

(assuming it is really pneumonia she has, which I doubt)

 

Hillary-Pneumonia2_zpsywzoa83h.jpg

 

> more: http://www.greenenergyinvestors.com/index.php?showtopic=20931&page=2

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