drbubb Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 SUGGESTIONS FOR RON - #1 (I couldn't find the posts I was looking for - there's too much material in these threads) So from memory.,, the suggestions were / along with some new ones: + Ron needs to downsize from where he was - though that may mean upsizing from where he is now + He needs to stop wasting his limited money on impossible legal defenses - and give up on regaining a home he bought with money stolen from the bank + He should move to a walkable neighborhood and get rid of his car, or use it rarely (this will save money) + He should put useful material on his channel, not Hopium with scammers, whom he has failed to research + He should ask for help and donations AFTER he has shown a positive change in his message + He can start a new channel, open to all, including the many truth-tellers he banned : he can say: Look, this is a new deal - I want the genuine Truth here, and I want help in researching things : he should begin to interview REAL people, not the frauds-full-of-Hopium that he focused on before : examples of people he might interview are below* - please give more by posting them here + he can do interviews, and charge for them, or charge for the second half of longer interviews (as Red Ice and C-realm do) + once he has shown he can refocus and initiate a new channel, he should ask for donations, and he should promise to not ban those who have bought a 1-year subscription to his channel (maybe be can have a monthly subscription at something like $2-5 a month, which he would lose if he bans a poster) IF HE DOES These things, he can reclaim much of his old audience, and begin to generate some revenues from his new channel (Can someone please pass these suggestions through to Ron ? !) WHO might he interview? He needs to rebuild his audience and his channel before he can attract first quality interviewees, so maybe he can start with people he knows already... Like: Aristo, Peter van Runt, ,,, but he needs to avoid-like-the plague: the liars, like the fake Ambassador (I promise to pester him without mercy, if he tries to revive that old advance-funding scam) And he should offer to interview some of his critics/ the truth-tellers, or be interviewed by them After he rebuilds his audience, he might seek out people of unusual backgrounds, and or with wisdom I mean people like : Simon Parkes, Rob Potter, Zen Gardner - see Wisdom Teachers thread ... and maybe one of my own favorites - here's a old post I did find: =============================== (the following was posted months ago - on the previous RVD /Ambassador thread): LOOK, Folks: I really have to believe that this message from Daniel Sheehan is more important, more interesting, more inspirational, than anything the fake "Ambassador" has ever said, or ever thought. Mikael is simply not capable of thinking on this level: Daniel Sheehan presents: Open Skies Ministry pt. 1 : Part-2 : Published on 2 Sep 2015 An examination of the Theological and Philosophical Implications of Extra Terrestrial Life (originally presented 2011... Below is a more up-to-date presentation): Daniel Sheehan: Philosophical responses to "verified contact" part 1 : Published on 10 Jul 2015 Daniel Sheehan at Contact in the Desert, May 2015; Monday Morning Workshop =============================== Please offer your own suggestions for Ron, to get him back to a more positive message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 (Some good people are still trying to get through to Ron - like here): 3-4-16 – SEE NO EVIL, HEAR NO EVIL – & IT MAGICALLY DISAPPEARS (actually, RVD seems to see no Truth, which he has labelled as "evil" - because he refuses to hear it) Toxic Reality1 day ago Ron can I ask, is this thing about them turning away because of their status something you have been told? or something you have assumed? in other words did you just fit these pieces together yourself to answer your own questions? Now I'm not saying what I'm about to say is true but.. what IF most of the beliefs you stand strong on today were half wrong or misinterpreted. Aren't some if not most of the people you got these beliefs from gone or in places we wouldn't like to be? it's just something to ponder.. I scrutinize EVERYTHING. (Lee Lou's comments could not be seen) Toxic Reality1 day ago +lee lou I couldn't agree more Lee Lou! I have been contemplating removing videos from my channel that although speak truth, it's old and outdated and I often feel that I'm being judged on that even though I no longer do shows. The truth movement has become so clouded and full of hypocrisy it's sad.. paradoxman3161 day ago +Toxic Reality - With some of my friends there has been discussion. Many simply stopped communicating with me. I'm a public figure online; and I was a leader for many years in the local spiritual community. I am easily accessible and willing to talk. Of course I no longer see or believe what I once did. That, no doubt, makes communication difficult. paradoxman3161 day ago +Toxic Reality - I don't know who Lee Lou is - probably one of the trolls/spammers I blocked. (( he says: "I'm a public figure online" - I think he now has a much smaller profile & audience than he used to - he chased it away )) Toxic Reality1 day ago +paradoxman316 Lee Lou was a long time supporter of yours Ron, like me.. During the times you were very emotional you blocked her and others. This is when you thought that people had to have content on YouTube to be valid. Just having a Gmail account gives you a YouTube account and you don't have to have videos or subs. But it's your channel bud.. I triple think before I comment now. I try to ask valid questions without making it look like I'm putting you down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunter Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 So in his latest video, Ron abdicates all responsibility for his screwups, blaming "God" for everything, it seems. "I know in my heart that I did not create the worst situations I have had to face in my life; in fact, I had absolutely no control in those situations." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted March 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 3-7-16 – EXPLORING THE QUESTION OF RESPONSIBILITY Published on Mar 6, 2016 When I look at the world and ask myself who is responsible for the mess we find ourselves in as humans, I get criticized when I reach the conclusion that the Creator, whom we call Gad, holds the ultimate responsibility. After all, is not a creator responsible for his or her creations?... Dear me! Ron, you schmuck, how can you blame "the bad guys" you have railed against in so many videos, if God is responsible for everything - and therefore no one is responsible for their own actions?? Surely, if BAD GUYS (bankers, lawyers etc) are responsible for the evil actions they take - then YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE for your own mistakes too!! Do we need to remind you of your many repeated screw-ups? You will never learn anything, and make any headway in life, until you can acknowledge you mistakes. Please ponder on this... and avoid the unhealthy self-justifications! This one gets a BIG THUMBS DOWN from me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted March 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Thumbs down to RVD's Nonsense! I am not the only one - to give Ron the big Thumbs Down ! (Please join in, if you agree, Dear Reader. Maybe he will get the message.) Out of about 100 Views, he's got 15 Thumbs down - that's an incredible 15% !!!!!!!!!!!!! I am beginning to get the idea that maybe HALF (or more) of the people who visit Ron's channel, are going there everyday, simply to see how bad his message can be - and some of those "reward" him with a Thumbs down. I did want to be one of THOSE - who just have a negative reaction to him. So that's why I write the post above (see #151), with some positive suggestions. I am waiting to see if Ron gets the message and reacts to it. Please pass it on!We might help Ron get out of this Blues-funk he is in, and whether he can move on to some more positive. Here's a guy who is more successful at envisioning something positive: Creating Heaven on Earth- Martin Rutte on The Future of Western Civilisation No.8 So I ask you: What is Heaven on Earth for you?? For me, it is a planet where all humans have developed fully their Discernment. If we can discern the Truth, it will be very hard to fool us,.. and we would have a new type of leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agaye Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Why don't scams stop after they are exposed? The ambassador has a new video out, and his "hits" are stacking up. Many still view the Gold fish report. I posted this question on the FB page, and my question was taken down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted March 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Welcome to Acore, agaye. You ask.. A very good question. I have two possible answers: + The hits are stacking up from new people, who have not yet discovered it is a scam; and/or + Old people, who have seen the evidence showing he is a phony, choose to not believe the evidence - they instead "suck on the Hopium" and believe in the old flimsy story because the HOPE it is true Either way, those who tell the truth to the believers are not welcomed for the evidence they provide. They (we) are rubbished and called names for doing the service of telling the truth. Look at how Ron bans people - and GMOP does too, And look at how believers of Flat Earth Theory run from the simple and obvious evidence that it is wrong That is why we need an army of people with true discernment, who will stop the lies early before they get traction. And will also stand up to the pushback from those who peddle Hopium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted March 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 RVD is an Imbalanced Libran He is too much driven by a need to protect his delusions and maintain certain "advantages"* that he can not open himself to Truth. His circuitous ways of avoiding those who want to talk truth, are apparent in almost every video. Truth and Understanding CAN be reached - the Video below is a good example of how people can reach understanding and wisdom Ending the Culture War: Political Dialogue: Phil Neisser and Jacob Hess *Advantages? What advantages?: Ron had many : He got an inheritance (a partial one, with an inbuilt title dispute) from Dr Mary. He tried to extract that, and retain it, as if there was no Title dispute... and pass the problem to the bank. He refuses to acknowledge that he has done this - and bans everyone who speaks honestly about it. Ron's way does not lead to a greater Truth or a happy resolution - that should be obvious to all by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted March 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 If RVD's delusional spirit was reincarnated as female, he might come out like this one Another load of bollox from an uninformed and confused woman (This one is so delusional, she rejects her own legal name) Ingunn Sigurdsdatter at the Open Mind Conference 2014 Like a thousand weeds, these misinformational videos seem to be sprouting. BTW, there are many problems with banks and banking, and we dont need to make up fantasy problems "Can it be worse?" she asks. ABSOLUTELY - look at RVD, it is getting worse for him. And it can get much worse for you too, Miss. It is probably getting worse each day, as dumbed down people gain more power, by appealing to dumbed-down principles. We need more Discernment, and more Excellence - not this kind of soft-headed nonsense = Another delusional video (from a Danish banker) was added to the Fractional Banking thread: http://www.greenenergyinvestors.com/index.php?showtopic=20606&page=5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriarN Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 This one is truly delusional too - Headed for Big Trouble The Van Dyke disease seems to have spread to Norway Ingunn Sigurdsdatter "How can we reclaim sovereignty and control of our lives?" The sad thing is that these sort of misinformed & confused people talk about how they are "Awake" when they have merely moved into a deeper and darker sort of Dream... and they will not like the consequences. Is it possible to save them, be freeing them from the lies they have come to believe? Lies like that banks get Free Money somehow, when they sign a mortgage Look at Ron's troubles; are we going to see these spreading all over the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashllyne Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Dr B - So where is the Enki gold?? LOL! Am waiting...Any news on Bo's Magic Miracle Bus and where it's going? The problem with these folks, those who entertain themselves as victims freely pointing the finger at the system waste their energy in raw anger not entertaining the fact they can make it happen on their own. I saw it happen in South America, specifically with Hugo Chavez. People wanted a better life and trusted a new party with no business experience whatsoever. Today, the country has been robbed down to the ground. The government runs a very profitable thug-oriented drug dealing global operation. People can scarcely find jobs or even food to buy. They thought freedom and liberation was going to be handed to them on a silver platter. Nothing further from the truth. People don't want to think for themselves anymore. I agree. This woman will take us right into socialist heaven which will become real hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted March 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 The problem with these folks, those who entertain themselves as victims freely pointing the finger at the system waste their energy in raw anger not entertaining the fact they can make it happen on their own... People don't want to think for themselves anymore. I agree. This woman will take us right into socialist heaven which will become real hell. For those who have not seen the prior page, in "This woman" - she is referring to: "Ingunn Sigurdsdatter "How can we reclaim sovereignty and control of our lives?"" What a silly presentation - she thinks she is awake, but she doesn't do her homework, and spouts nutty ideas that she has not researched properly! A female version of the tragic RVD! What heroic thing has she done? She stopped paying her mortgage, breaking her promise. Why? Because "banks do not really lend money," she says. But she does really understand how banks operate Here's another hopeless cause she embraced Ingunn Sigurdsdatter - State planning invasion of Niceland on 20th October 2014 "Niceland is a sovereign territory and the police have no jurisdiction" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashllyne Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 They want us to believe they are so awake. This is how they spend their creative energy? This is how they make it happen? Just the use of the word oligarch that she used. That is anyone that has money and has worked for what they have will be expropriated if these air heads come onto power. People really need to wake up and have a more creative, productive focus in their lives than this nonsense. All that Ron did was to lead us into a scam and before the Amba there were many other scams. We need to be saved? Really? This is how we use our energy? I do find that many of the things she discusses are true. The way our rights have been twisted and taken away. I just cannot agree with how she is trying to change things. There are far more productive solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted March 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 LOOK what she has achieved - Nothing... Negative results Red Ice Radio - Ingunn Sigursdatter - Norway: Happiest Country on Earth Myth She admits, that she has been happily CLIMBING DOWN THE SOCIAL LADDER The infection started with her grandfather, who was the head of one of Norway's Leftist parties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Dr B - So where is the Enki gold?? LOL! Am waiting...Any news on Bo's Magic Miracle Bus and where it's going? We're on a road to nowhere Come on inside Takin' that ride to nowhere We'll take that ride I'm feelin' okay this mornin' And you know We're on a road to paradise Here we go, here we go Read more: Talking Heads - Road To Nowhere Lyrics | MetroLyrics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunter Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Ron's theology no longer fits his life situation, and he resorts to fantasy to try and remove the dissonance. Ron is totally dependent on the government (and paypal donations) for his survival, which doesn't square well with his belief that he is a "sovereign" and a co-equal with "god." So he constantly rails against the hand that feeds him and lives in a demon haunted world. The best advice I can offer him is that Youtube is not a window on the world. And my favorite quote: "We live in a house full of mirrors, and think we are looking out windows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted March 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Ron's theology no longer fits his life situation, and he resorts to fantasy to try and remove the dissonance. Ron is totally dependent on the government (and paypal donations) for his survival, which doesn't square well with his belief that he is a "sovereign" and a co-equal with "god." So he constantly rails against the hand that feeds him and lives in a demon haunted world. The best advice I can offer him is that Youtube is not a window on the world. And my favorite quote: "We live in a house full of mirrors, and think we are looking out windows." Exactly! Sovereign my arse! But that the way with dependent people, they blame everyone but themselves for the mess they are in. Those that see they may have some responsibility for it, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Clearly, Ron does not expect to solve his own problems ! Here he goes again! - Spreading Lies "A bank mortgage is fraud. Period !" "Banks do not lend money... They steal the wealth from people" 3-10-16 – DOES FREE WILL MAKE GOD A TYRANT? . With the mistaken, unresearched, and immoral ideas he has, is it any wonder that no one wants to take a risk and rent him a flat?? Hey Ron, The money you gave the seller of the Melbourne home, was that acceptable to the seller? Of course it was, or you would never have had the key The bank KEPT ITS PROMISE and gave you legal tender. YOU BROKE YOUR PROMISE, when you did not pay them bank. If you think anyone who knows this story will think you are something other than a deadbeat, you'd better offer a better explanation ! (BTW, Ron's confused or corrupted soul is beginning to show up on his face) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted March 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 REAL DIALOG ? This is one of Rev Rada's better videos Mystic View # 11: Building Bridges With The Generations He picked a good subject for the interview. Morgan expressed herself well. She isn't ready to buy into the materialism. (But hasnt quite figured out how to avoid that.) I wonder what she thinks about RVD's plot to steal money from a bank to buy a "free" house? At the end, Radagast mentioned that he is setting up GMOP-TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubaigangsta Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 I am guessing it is safe to close this thread now.RVD, ambassadar and DS are washed up now. THey are hardly relevant. RVD lost his home, his viewership is dwindling every week and is 5-8% of what it was at his peak, he has been abandoned by his close friends adn hsi health is failing. THe universe is speaking loudly to these people that it is time to change gears. I think our energy is beter spent focusing on matters that are actuall relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Dave Schmidt has changed gears. Of the three you mention, he is likely to have the most staying power. Dave says his book is in progress and his workshops are still ongoing. Even if he meets Enki and other Annunaki, will that help us? Humanity is pretty messed up, money alone will not solve our problems, it is how we treat each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted March 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 "I am guessing it is safe to close this thread now." - D.G.* Ron's efforts come in cycles... and he is still "on his mission" So far, he has promoted: + the unreal Republic - that was going to restore constitutional government - RVD was Attorney General for Florida (imagine that!) + the phony OPPT - that promised everyone on the planet $6 Million each (or was it $6 Billion?), + the incredible Swissindo - with Mr Sino, the King of Kings, who called Ron his 'father' from a past life, + the fake Ambassador - who promised Ron $5,000, and told the world there would be a debt Jubilee by now (these are only the ones I know about) Do you think the man who was appointed Prime Minister (by Mr Sino) - see below - is done yet? He says is is still on a mission. And I believe him. Ron will find another scam, and promote it... then we will see whether his audience has improved their discernment. That is what I am waiting to find out. And there are all the others out there... DS is still going strong (-ish), Rada is about to launch a new channel... and Sanjay still dresses as a pirate (probably.) But, hey, I am ready to bring new characters on fake missions onto this thread too. Have you seen any? === *Welcome to Acore, Dubaigangsta. Did you really join, just to suggest we close this thread? I think not. Can you Tell us more about why RVD and his friends interest you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted March 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Lisa M Harrison is still out there - promoting fake ideas (& a few real ones) Here's HER effort to push Flat Earth Theory to her dwindling audience Lisa M Harrison w' Mark Sargent - The MOTHER of all Conspiracies "I am asking you to suspend you disbelief for the next two hours" (as if that was anything unusual for her) But she does interview some interesting and genuine people, like this one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 But, hey, I am ready to bring new characters on fake missions onto this thread too. Have you seen any? I have been following Landa China Global and their associated org, Humanus for a while. They also claim to be in the process of funding humanitarian projects. Jerzy Babkowski, who is the Chairman, has said he is part of the Golden Dragons. They don't charge upfront fees, but some think ZAP is Jerzy and the Zap updates come out a couple of times per week and ask for donations to continue their work. Zap's MO is to say that the funds are about to be released, or have been released and need to be cleared, or get through compliance. Every update is a story about how the funds have been withheld. This has been going on for quite a few years, here is an example: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 FIRST OF ALL, GLOBAL PROCESSES IN MOTION HAVE COME TO A HEAD, AND THE RELEASES OF MAJOR FUNDS FOR REDEMPTIONS OF HISTORIC ASSETS, THE RV, AND VARIOUS PROGRAMS ARE ALL SCHEDULED NOW TO START IN THE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH NOW THAT THE CHINESE NEW YEAR IS REALLY OVER. PROJECT FUNDINGS WILL OF COURSE FOLLOW, AND IT CAN NOT COME SOON ENOUGH. EVERYBODY IS DREDGING THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL AND LOOKING AT BARE CUPBOARDS AND NOT EVEN A BONE IS LEFT. GIVE GENEROUSLY. AT LEAST 2 BUCKS. OR A DUCK. BEARS GRACIOUSLY DECLINED. and then one year later, the udpate is as follows: Wed, 24 Feb 2016THERE IS A LOT HERE. AND YES, THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK GOING ON IN THE BACKGROUND, AND THE SWIFT SYSTEM AS WELL AS NORMAL TT (TELEX TRANSFERS) WERE PUT ON A TEMPORARY FREEZE TO ACCOMPLISH SOME THINGS I CAN NOT TALK ABOUT. ALL OF IT IS PART AND PARCEL OF THE RESET. WITH THE ADVENT OF THE RELEASES THAT ARE SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEEK, THE ACTIVITY AROUND THE GLOBE WILL ESCALATE. The most recent update for March 12 is: HI ALL THE UPDATE IS WE NOW HAVE 2 TRANSACTIONS FROM THE TRUST THAT ARE COMPLETED WITH THE FUNDS IN THE ACCOUNTS, BUT THESE HAVE BEEN STUCK BY THE REGULATORS (MONETARY AUTHORITY AND BANK COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENTS). THIS TEMPORARY HALT OF THE RELEASE OF FUNDS IS SHORT LIVED AND THE REGULATORS HAVE ADVISED US NOW TO EXPECT THE RELEASE OF THE FIRST FUNDS ON TUESDAY MARCH 15, 2016, AND THE SECOND LARGER FUNDS ON MARCH 22, 2016. THERE IS A MAJOR TRANSFER SCHEDULED FOR THE END OF THE MONTH THAT WILL REALLY BEGIN THE PROJECT FUNDINGS. They have yet to have any projection come true. If these folks ever get funds, I would be very wary of accepting them and then hiring staff and renting office space. What would you tell your staff when the next round of funding is delayed? Will you follow Zap's lead and give them endless excuses why you can't pay their salary? How long do you expect your staff to stick around and wait? What will you tell the landlord? Landlords have far less patience than followers of Zap and you will be out on the street. There is a reason why Humanus has no office space. Be wary of dealing with these folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubaigangsta Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 "I am guessing it is safe to close this thread now." - D.G.* Ron's efforts come in cycles... and he is still "on his mission" So far, he has promoted: + the unreal Republic - that was going to restore constitutional government - RVD was Attorney General for Florida (imagine that!) + the phony OPPT - that promised everyone on the planet $6 Million each (or was it $6 Billion?), + the incredible Swissindo - with Mr Sino, the King of Kings, who called Ron his 'father' from a past life, + the fake Ambassador - who promised Ron $5,000, and told the world there would be a debt Jubilee by now (these are only the ones I know about) Do you think the man who was appointed Prime Minister (by Mr Sino) - see below - is done yet? He says is is still on a mission. And I believe him. Ron will find another scam, and promote it... then we will see whether his audience has improved their discernment. That is what I am waiting to find out. And there are all the others out there... DS is still going strong (-ish), Rada is about to launch a new channel... and Sanjay still dresses as a pirate (probably.) But, hey, I am ready to bring new characters on fake missions onto this thread too. Have you seen any? === *Welcome to Acore, Dubaigangsta. Did you really join, just to suggest we close this thread? I think not. Can you Tell us more about why RVD and his friends interest you i was just watching the train wreck but it seems to be done. the past few years i knew a lot of new agers that believed this shit, they all seem to be moving on now. in terms of more relevant charlatans today... i would give the title to the ruiner who has reinvented the ambassadors gimmick. david wilcock to his credit finds a way to re-invent himself as he is riding behind corey goode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbubb Posted March 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 i was just watching the train wreck but it seems to be done. the past few years i knew a lot of new agers that believed this shit, they all seem to be moving on now. in terms of more relevant charlatans today... i would give the title to the ruiner who has reinvented the ambassadors gimmick. david wilcock to his credit finds a way to re-invent himself as he is riding behind corey goode. Interesting comment: That the New Agers may be "moving on". I think they will just find the next bit of Hopium - or the next Big phony Revelation (Like Flat Earth Theory) They call themselves "Awake", but that is just a self-delusion to make them feel superior to those they left behind. These people seem to lack any discernment, which requires open-ness to the research of others I started with an open mind tpwards each of Ron's Delusions, and then rejected them based on evidence. (You can see that whole process as it unfolded here with the Fake Ambassador fantasy; there are three threads): + Open Mind phase: WHO is "The Ambassador" from the Dragon Family? (136 r / 11,788 v) http://www.greenenergyinvestors.com/index.php?showtopic=19639 + They've failed phase: Ambassador, GMOP and Dragon family Fall short of Realistic Expectations (786 r / 28,667 v) http://www.greenenergyinvestors.com/index.php?showtopic=20093 + Crush-the-bums phase: Discerning RVD, DS, & GMOP, and moving forward (175 r / 4,861 v) http://www.greenenergyinvestors.com/index.php?showtopic=20561&page=9 > that is: this thread* I kept an "open" mind as long as I could, but the evidence became overwhelming that the Amba was a Fraud. (Actually, I pretty much suspected that on day one - but I waited for him to hang himself with the evidence. From the point that he did, I was relentless in exposing him. I gave him every chance to present something solid backing his case, and he slid away from doing that every time.) I even kept and open-mind towards RVD;s story that he was cheated by the bank, but the evidence shows + He signed a mortgage on the Merritt Island property + There is no evidence that he repaid it + Ron says the bank then claimed his other property, the one he bought with their money + There is no evidence that the bank agreed to forgive the loan, though RVD makes some bizarre claims that they did so + RON BELIEVES in a purile fantasy that banks get free money (somehow), when people sign loan agreements Until I see real evidence that Rons-sort of Hopium-addicted followers have a real interest in deploying actual discernment, I cannot believe that these sorts of weak-minded fools are capable of moving onto something better. But, yes, many people do wake up along the way, and learn genuine discernment skills... just not enough (yet) to crush the scamming out of the hopium providers, like Ron... who lives to scam another day (apparently) ===== ===== * BTW: I am still in the open-mind phase, with Corey Goode/ David Wilcock; and Andrew Basiago the They've failed phase, with Neil Keenan and his followers; and the Crush the bums phase, with respect to FET . . . I have moved on to the Conspiracy Researchers got this right phase, with: JFK's assassination, 9/11's official story, the existence of UFO's/ETs and I am nearly there with the existence of Free Energy devices, but I will stay in the open mind phase with that, until I see more evidence of a working device Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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