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Some time back I came across this site http://www.cheniere.org/ and found it interesting, and wondered why it had never taken off.

 

Was it because it was untrue, or being sat on by vested interests.

 

There appears to be a number of other free energy generating ideas; I wonder how these can be invested in, if indeed at all.

 

Would welcome your views

 

Regards

 

 

Frank

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This about sums it up for me "U.S. Navy, General Electric and Stanford University used free energy system in 1930s".

If the US navy had free energy systems they would be military masters of the world. They could power aircraft carriers at amazing speeds - or even better - fly them about the place.

They dont do that so, logically, they dont have this ability.

It therefore seems unlikely that they had this ability in the 1930's and gave it up.

 

They do however have the ability to broadcast energy.

It is alleged, that sending energy to ships and submarines is why all these whales keep beaching as the process interferes with their navigation.

 

Look here under "Electrics and Magnetics" and "Free Energy And Over Unity" (about 1/10th way down the page).

There are any number of "free energy" scams and crackpots out there.

 

Try looking up Nikola Tesla.....you'll be all over the federales computers though :ph34r::ph34r:;)

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A few years ago, I read Nick Cook's (mentioned on the web link above, a journo for Jane's Defense Weekly) book "The Hunt for Zero Point". At about the same time he presented a programme on C4, in which he attempted to disprove the UFO phenomenon linking it instead to US black projects, anti-gravity and zero point experiments. It makes fascinating reading as he believed that it all got started with the Nazi's working on anti-gravity projects during WW2. That explained the "foo fighters" that tracked allied planes on their raids. These nazi scientists ended up working for the US and USSR after 1945.

 

For a well respected, credible journo, he comes up with some surprising conclusions. And you would have thought that considering the US government syphons off $20-30 billion a year for black projects, there must be some interesting exotic energy projects going on. I don't think there can be much doubt that they are working on them, but whether they are getting anywhere is another matter.

 

http://www.randomhouse.co.uk/minisites/zer...zero_point.html

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This about sums it up for me "U.S. Navy, General Electric and Stanford University used free energy system in 1930s".

If the US navy had free energy systems they would be military masters of the world. They could power aircraft carriers at amazing speeds - or even better - fly them about the place.

They dont do that so, logically, they dont have this ability.

It therefore seems unlikely that they had this ability in the 1930's and gave it up.

 

They do however have the ability to broadcast energy.

It is alleged, that sending energy to ships and submarines is why all these whales keep beaching as the process interferes with their navigation.

 

Look here under "Electrics and Magnetics" and "Free Energy And Over Unity" (about 1/10th way down the page).

There are any number of "free energy" scams and crackpots out there.

 

Try looking up Nikola Tesla.....you'll be all over the federales computers though :ph34r::ph34r:;)

 

Yes, I am familiar with Tesla and his coil et al

 

That being the case we are now probably on the Feds computer.

 

The energy sending business sounds cool, imagine having the equivalent of wireless electric, just in the home would be great. No more tripping over cables! And of course no need for all those pylons and the energy loss just moving the electricity.

 

However I really feel that these zero point experiments must produce some encouraging results.

 

 

Frank

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Zero point energy is predicted by science so it's not really a crackpot thing. The question is how to tap into it, and how much power there is. It might be that a sugar cubes worth of space may have enough energy to boil all the water on earth, or that an earth sized space might just boil your kettle. Nick Cook quotes a scientist who has calculated it is likely to be at the upper end of that scale. I bet there is some free energy source out there. The trouble is from a financial point of view, and as is often the case, those that profit the most from it are not likely to be the initial inventors.

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" those that profit the most from it are not likely to be the initial inventors"

 

Not necessarily true. Ever hear of Thomas Edison?

 

= =

 

BTW, I have a favorite way of startng my searches on Google.

I love images, so what i often do, is put the Key Words in Googles Image search engine.

As an example, click on the two seaches below, I bet you will see some interesting things:

 

1# : "tesla idea"

2# : "free electricity"

 

Below is the most interest image I found on the first page or two of these searches:

 

ttower2.jpg

 

The above image led me to: http://www.teslasociety.com

 

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The second image led me to an almost certain scam:

"With this (3 x 3 x 3) Sundance Generator, a 50 HP Hummingbird Motor, the head of research, many scientists and once 1.6 million America homeowners are signed up to be witnesses to the truth of Free Electricity!; Then, The Research and Development Groups of America (DGofA) will begin installing the first 108+/- generators strategically locating them Nationwide; So all can easily come and see Free Electricity being made simultaneously Nationwide!"

@: http://www.sonshipindustries.com/

 

If it sounds too good to be true - it almost certainly is.

 

Most often I find that websites that have interesting images, have interesting written content as well.

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ANOTHER SCAM??

 

FREE ENERGY - FREE POWER FOR YOUR HOME, GARAGE, CAR OR BUSINESS!

FuellessEngine3.gif

 

FREE POWER / FREE ELECTRICITY 24 Hours a Day, 7 Days a Week!

 

Use this motor to power an AC generator to power your home. ( See our Sp500 AC or DC HV Generator plans ). This awesome device can also be used to replace any AC or DC motor in your home furnace or air conditioner! We have professionally designed these plans and video so just about anyone can easily build this motor in the privacy of there own home! You will love our step by step plans! These plans will be easy to follow and will give you the confidence you need to successfully build and install this free energy motor for what ever application that it is needed for. This is an easy to build low cost project that pays for itself! If you know what a screw driver is then you can build this motor! We have spent over 8 years researching and developing this device. It has been built and fully tested! Our demonstration video shows our motor running and working and is definite proof that this motor really does work! But to anyone who may be skeptic. I first challenge you to have faith and purchase our plans, Second, build one of our easy low cost 1/2 hp Fuelless Engine motors, ( Estimated cost to build less than $50 ), then take it to any machine shop in your area and have them test the motor. Tell them it is a free energy motor and then watch there eyes light up! They will be glad to check the motor out for you at no charge! Our Fuelless Engine motor is Guaranteed to work or your money back!

 

We are scientist's and we are here to sell our inventions and our ideas and we want you as a repeat customer! We use the money to help fund our research, the US Government does not give grants to our type of free energy research. We want you satisfied so you will come back and buy more plans and videos or our entire CD Package # 1 of all 33 plans and 2 videos.

 

@: http://www.fuellesspower.com/engine2FREE.htm

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ANOTHER SCAM??

 

FREE ENERGY - FREE POWER FOR YOUR HOME, GARAGE, CAR OR BUSINESS!

FuellessEngine3.gif

 

FREE POWER / FREE ELECTRICITY 24 Hours a Day, 7 Days a Week!

 

Use this motor to power an AC generator to power your home. ( See our Sp500 AC or DC HV Generator plans ). This awesome device can also be used to replace any AC or DC motor in your home furnace or air conditioner! We have professionally designed these plans and video so just about anyone can easily build this motor in the privacy of there own home! You will love our step by step plans! These plans will be easy to follow and will give you the confidence you need to successfully build and install this free energy motor for what ever application that it is needed for. This is an easy to build low cost project that pays for itself! If you know what a screw driver is then you can build this motor! We have spent over 8 years researching and developing this device. It has been built and fully tested! Our demonstration video shows our motor running and working and is definite proof that this motor really does work! But to anyone who may be skeptic. I first challenge you to have faith and purchase our plans, Second, build one of our easy low cost 1/2 hp Fuelless Engine motors, ( Estimated cost to build less than $50 ), then take it to any machine shop in your area and have them test the motor. Tell them it is a free energy motor and then watch there eyes light up! They will be glad to check the motor out for you at no charge! Our Fuelless Engine motor is Guaranteed to work or your money back!

 

We are scientist's and we are here to sell our inventions and our ideas and we want you as a repeat customer! We use the money to help fund our research, the US Government does not give grants to our type of free energy research. We want you satisfied so you will come back and buy more plans and videos or our entire CD Package # 1 of all 33 plans and 2 videos.

 

@: http://www.fuellesspower.com/engine2FREE.htm

 

Quite an impressive website for a scam, until you see the address is a PO Box number!

 

And you do get a guarantee :rolleyes:

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the guarantee is not worth the website it is written on

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Originally found this one a couple of years ago on www.japan.com, don't know what has happened since...:

 

Kohei Minato and the Japan Magnetic Fan Company

 

A maverick inventor's breakthrough electric motor uses permanent magnets to make power -- and has investors salivating

 

http://www.japan.com/technology/index.php

 

by John Dodd

 

 

When we first got the call from an excited colleague that he'd just seen the most amazing invention -- a magnetic motor that consumed almost no electricity -- we were so skeptical that we declined an invitation to go see it. If the technology was so good, we thought, how come they didn't have any customers yet?

 

We forgot about the invitation and the company until several months later, when our friend called again.

 

"OK," he said. "They've just sold 40,000 units to a major convenience store chain. Now will you see it?"

 

 

 

 

The maestro

 

The streets of east Shinjuku are littered with the tailings of the many small factories and workshops still located there -- hardly one's image of the headquarters of a world-class technology company. But this is where we are first greeted outside Kohei Minato's workshop by Nobue Minato, the wife of the inventor and co-director of the family firm.

 

The workshop itself is like a Hollywood set of an inventor's garage. Electrical machines, wires, measuring instruments and batteries are strewn everywhere. Along the diagram-covered walls are drill presses, racks of spare coils, Perspex plating and other paraphernalia. And seated in the back, head bowed in thought, is the 58-year-old techno maestro himself.

 

Minato is no newcomer to the limelight. In fact, he has been an entertainer for most of his life, making music and producing his daughter's singing career in the US. He possesses an oversized presence, with a booming voice and a long ponytail. In short, you can easily imagine him onstage or in a convertible cruising down the coast of California -- not hunched over a mass of wires and coils in Tokyo's cramped backstreets.

 

Joining us are a middle-aged banker and his entourage from Osaka and accounting and finance consultant Yukio Funai. The banker is doing a quick review for an investment, while the rest of us just want to see if Minato's magnetic motors really work. A prototype car air conditioner cooler sitting on a bench looks like it would fit into a Toyota Corolla and quickly catches our attention.

 

In Japan, no one pays for 40,000 convenience store cooling fans without being reasonably sure that they are going to work.

 

 

 

 

Seeing is believing

 

Nobue then takes us through the functions and operations of each of the machines, starting off with a simple explanation of the laws of magnetism and repulsion. She demonstrates the "Minato Wheel" by kicking a magnet-lined rotor into action with a magnetic wand.

 

Looking carefully at the rotor, we see that it has over 16 magnets embedded on a slant -- apparently to make Minato's machines work, the positioning and angle of the magnets is critical. After she kicks the wheel into life, it keeps spinning, proving at least that the design doesn't suffer from magnetic lockup.

 

She then moves us to the next device, a weighty machine connected to a tiny battery. Apparently the load on the machine is a 35kg rotor, which could easily be used in a washing machine. After she flicks the switch, the huge rotor spins at over 1,500 rpms effortlessly and silently. Meters show the power in and power out. Suddenly, a power source of 16 watt or so is driving a device that should be drawing at least 200 to 300 watts.

 

Nobue explains to us that this and all the other devices only use electrical power for the two electromagnetic stators at either side of each rotor, which are used to kick the rotor past its lockup point then on to the next arc of magnets. Apparently the angle and spacing of the magnets is such that once the rotor is moving, repulsion between the stators and the rotor poles keeps the rotor moving smoothly in a counterclockwise direction. Either way, it's impressive.

 

Next we move to a unit with its motor connected to a generator. What we see is striking. The meters showed an input to the stator electromagnets of approximately 1.8 volts and 150mA input, and from the generator, 9.144 volts and 192mA output. 1.8 x 0.15 x 2 = 540mW input and 9.144 x 0.192 = 1.755W out.

 

But according to the laws of physics, you can't get more out of a device than you put into it. We mention this to Kohei Minato while looking under the workbench to make sure there aren't any hidden wires.

 

Minato assures us that he hasn't transcended the laws of physics. The force supplying the unexplained extra power out is generated by the magnetic strength of the permanent magnets embedded in the rotor. "I'm simply harnessing one of the four fundamental forces of nature," he says.

 

Although we learned in school that magnets were always bipolar and so magnetically induced motion would always end in a locked state of equilibrium, Minato explains that he has fine-tuned the positioning of the magnets and the timing of pulses to the stators to the point where the repulsion between the rotor and the stator (the fixed outer magnetic ring) is transitory. This creates further motion -- rather than a lockup. (See the sidebar on page 41 for a full explanation).

 

 

Real products

 

Nobue Minato leads us to the two devices that might convince a potential investor that this is all for real.

 

First, she shows us the cooling fan prototype that is being manufactured for a convenience store chain's 14,000 outlets (3 fans per outlet). The unit looks almost identical to a Mitsubishi-manufactured fan unit next to it, which is the unit currently in wide use. In a test, the airflow from both units is about the same.

 

The other unit is the car air conditioning prototype that caught our eye as we came in. It's a prototype for Nippon Denso, Japan's largest manufacturer of car air conditioners. The unit is remarkably compact and has the same contours and size as a conventional unit. Minato's manufacturing skills are clearly improving.

 

 

The banker and his investment

 

Minato has good reason to complain about Japan's social and cultural uniformity. For years, people thought of him as an oddball for playing the piano for a living, and bankers and investors have avoided him because of his habit of claiming that he'd discovered a breakthrough technology all by himself -- without any formal training.

 

However, the Osaka banker stands up after the lecture and announces that before he goes, he will commit \100 million to the investment pool.

 

Minato turns to us and smiles. We brought him good luck, and this was his third investor in as many weeks to confirm an interest.

 

Bringing the tech to the table

 

With the audience gone, we ask Minato what he plans to do to commercialize the technology. His game plan is simple and clear, he says. He wants to retain control, and he wants to commercialize the technology in Japan first -- where he feels he can ensure that things get done right. Why doesn't he go directly to the US or China? His experiences in both countries, he suggests, have been less than successful. "The first stage is critical in terms of creating good products and refining the technology. I don't want to be busy with legal challenges and IP theft while doing that."

 

Still, the export and licensing of the technology are on his agenda, and Minato is talking to a variety of potential partners in other countries.

 

Whereas another inventor might be tempted to outsource everything to a larger corporation, part of what drives Minato is his vision of social justice and responsibility. The 40,000 motors for the convenience store chain are being produced by a group of small manufacturers in Ohta-ku and Bunkyo-ku, in the inner north of Tokyo -- which is becoming a regional rust belt. Minato is seized with the vision of reinvigorating these small workshops that until the 80s were the bedrock of Japan's manufacturing and economic miracle. Their level of expertise will ensure that the quality of the motors will be as good as those from any major company.

 

 

International prep

 

Despite his plan to do things domestically first, Minato is well prepared for the international markets. He is armed with both six years of living and doing business in Los Angeles in the early 90s -- and with patent protection for over 48 countries. His is hardly a provincial perspective.

 

His US experience came after playing the piano for a living for 15 years. He began tinkering with his invention in the mid-70s. The idea for his magnetic motor design came from a burst of inspiration while playing the piano.

 

But Minato decided to drop everything in 1990 to help his daughter Hiroko, who at the age of 20 decided that she wanted to be a rhythm and blues star in the US. Minato is a strong believer in family: If Hiroko was going to find fame and fortune in the US, Dad had better be there to help manage her. He suceeded in helping Hiroko to achieve a UK dance chart number one hit in 1995.

 

In 1996 Minato returned to Japan and his magnetic motor project. The following year he displayed his prototypes to national power companies, government officials and others at a five-day conference in Mexico City. Interest was palpable, and Minato realized that his invention might meet a global need for energy-saving devices.

 

Subsequent previews and speeches in Korea and Singapore further consolidated his commitment to bringing the invention to fruition, and he was able to bring in several early-stage investors.

 

During the late 90s, Minato continued to refine his prototypes. He also stayed in constant contact with his lawyer, registering patents in major countries around the world. Through his experiences in the US he realized that legal protection was critical, even if it meant delaying release of the technology by a couple of years.

 

Ironically, by the time he'd won patents in 47 countries, the Japanese patent office turned him down on the grounds that "[the invention] couldn' t possibly work" and that somehow he was fabricating the claims.

 

But a few months later they were forced to recant their decision after the US patent office recognized his invention and gave him the first of two patents. As Minato notes: "How typical of Japan's small-minded bureaucrats that they needed the leadership of the US to accept that my invention was genuine."

 

By 2001, the Minatos had refined their motors and met enough potential investors to enter into a major international relationship, initially with a Saudi company, to be followed thereafter by companies in the US and elsewhere.

 

However, fate dealt the investors and Minato's business a serious blow when the World Trade Center was attacked in New York. The Saudis retreated, and Minato's plans fell back to square one.

 

Now Minato is once again ready to move. With the first order in the works and more orders pending successful prototypes, he has decided that investors don't have to be primary partners. He is actively accepting inquiries from corporate investors who can bring strategic advantages and corporate credibility with them. His company, Japan Magnetic Fan, will make a series of investment tie-up announcements in the first and second quarters of 2004.

 

 

Implications

 

Minato's motors consume just 20 percent or less of the power of conventional motors with the same torque and horse power. They run cool to the touch and produce almost no acoustic or electrical noise. They are significantly safer and cheaper (in terms of power consumed), and they are sounder environmentally.

 

The implications are enormous. In the US alone, almost 55 percent of the nation's electricity is consumed by electric motors. While most factory operators buy the cheapest motors possible, they are steadily being educated by bodies like NEMA (National Electrical Manufacturers Association) that the costs of running a motor over a typical 20-year lifespan comprise a purchase price of just 3 percent of the total, and electricity costs of 97 percent. It is not unusual for a $2,000 motor to consume $80,000 of electricity (at a price of .06 cents per kilowatt hour).

 

Since 1992, when efficiency legislation was put into place at the US federal level, motor efficiency has been a high priority -- and motors saving 20 percent or so on electrical bills are considered highly efficient. Minato is about to introduce a motor which saves 80 percent, putting it into an entirely new class: The $80,000 running cost will drop to just $16,000. This is a significant savings when multiplied by the millions of motors used throughout the USA and Japan -- and eventually, throughout the world.

 

 

The devices

 

Minato's invention and its ability to use remarkably less power and run without heat or noise make it perfect for home appliances, personal computers, cellphones (a miniature generator is in the works) and other consumer products.

 

The magnetic motor will be cheaper than a standard motor to make, as the rotor and stator assemblies can be set into plastic housings, due to the fact that the system creates very little heat. Further, with the motor's energy efficiency, it will be well suited for any application where a motor has limited energy to drive it. While development is still focused on replacing existing devices, Minato says that his motor has sufficient torque to power a vehicle.

 

With the help of magnetic propulsion, it is feasible to attach a generator to the motor and produce more electric power than was put into the device. Minato says that average efficiency on his motors is about 330 percent.

 

Mention of Over Unity devices in many scientific circles will draw icy skepticism. But if you can accept the idea that Minato's device is able to create motion and torque through its unique, sustainable permanent magnet propulsion system, then it makes sense that he is able to get more out of the unit than he puts in in terms of elctrical power. Indeed, if the device can produce a surplus of power for longer periods, every household in the land will want one.

 

"I am not in this for the money," Minato says. "I have done well in my musical career, but I want to make a contribution to society -- helping the backstreet manufacturers here in Japan and elsewhere. I want to reverse the trends caused by major multinationals. There is a place for corporations. But as the oil industry has taught us, energy is one area where a breakthrough invention like this cannot be trusted to large companies."

 

Minato was once close to making a deal with Enron. But today, he is firmly on a mission to support the small and the independent -- and to go worldwide with them and his amazing machine. "Our plan is to rally smaller companies and pool their talent, and to one day produce the technology across a wide range of fields."

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...i did an image search...

 

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Looked into this more deeply,

and it seems that the problem is: the Magnets "Degauss" over a period of time

 

"Magnet Motors

Motors in which magnets are the only motive force. No validated documentation yet obtained of a system in which magnets do not degauss."

 

HERE's a list of such motors for review and sale: http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/MagneticMotors/

 

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What Happened to This One? - "Back in the early 80's, a gentlemen was on T.V showing his magnet powered home using a generator approximately three square feet in size. The top was domed. The unit itself look like a ball, to start the generator the man just spun the ball and the generator started/kept spinning. sometime later I heard this man was trying to work with ray-o-vac to develop a electrical storage unit for his generator. I've never heard or seen anything since. The units propulsion was opposing magnet fields." -- Jeff Drescher <cosmo222{at}adelphia.ne*t>

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What makes me suspicious about this is that the description of the device is double-Dutch. Any device to process energy into work should have a fairly simple explanation. Even something pretty complicated like a fission plant can be explained in terms that the non-technocrat can grasp.

 

I am not aware of any significant invention that has ever been successfully suppressed by vested interests in its early history. For instance, the first flight by the Wright brothers did not lead instantly to the world beating a path to Dayton, Ohio. The simple truth is that for several years, people just didn't believe they were flying. The brothers were quite happy to be disbelieved, since it meant they could work away in peace to get their Flyer to a point it could be demonstrated to the US Army. But suppression by the railroad companies or whatever didn't come into it. Ideas don't get suppressed, they just don't have profitable potential, so they don't get taken up. Another point is that new machines are almost never just one person in one place, but a number of people working independently along the same lines. Again, the early aircraft pioneers are a case in point.

 

So far as the Japanese magic fan goes, if it gets picked up by the car manufacturers as a magic car I'll take a closer look, otherwise I suspect it's hype by an ignorant journalist who does not understand you don't get something for nothing.

 

The machines we use today are actually pretty difficult to beat. That is why we use them. There are plenty of other ideas around, but they don't get picked up because there is no money in them - yet. I'd keep an eye in the first instance on ideas that have been around a long time but just haven't fitted a mass demand thus far. Stirling engines come to mind.

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KeelyNet: BBS Posting from Henry Curtis (11-18-1997)

Korean Magnetic Perpetual Motion Wheel

 

I must apologize for not having all the details of this interesting device but will update the file when I get more info from the source. In email communications with John Schnurer, I happened to mention it and he's been on me since then to send him a diagram, yet I felt like it would simply be confusing because its operation is not clear or readily apparent from the information I had.The information that I have comes directly from long time friend Henry Curtis of Colorado. We both attended the 1997 ISNE conference in Denver and Henry was telling about this interesting machine he had seen while on a trip to the Phillipines. He said there was a free energy conference held there and he noticed a spinning bicycle wheel that was attached to a stand that sat on a table.

 

The wheel was running when he first saw it, yet there did not appear to be any driving force such as a motor, belts, gears, etc..Henry said he watched it for quite awhile and it never stopped running. On expressing curiosity about the wheel, he was invited to stop it and start it up without any outside assistance.Henry reports the wheel was brought to a complete stop, then he gave it a spin with his hand and it began moving on its own. I am uncertain if it followed the tendency of other such devices to establish its own speed. Some devices like this can be spun up to high speed from an outside source, then will slow to a speed which is determined by the geometry and strength of the repelling or attracting forces that operate it.Henry swears it was the neatest thing he'd ever seen and drew a crude diagram of the arrangement on my notepad. Unfortunately, we were a bit rushed and I did not achieve a complete understanding of how it operated. That is why I did not want to blow smoke about it until more detail had been received, god knows, we don't need any more of that.However, perhaps someone can figure it out from the limited information I do have. The following drawing shows the wheel arrangement, one half was weighted, the other half had slanted magnets. I do not know whether they are all repelling, attracting or a mix of these forces.

 

curtis.jpg

 

As you can imagine, the weight of the magnets must equal the weight of the other half of the wheel to balance out. Apparently the force of the magnetic repulsion or attaction provides the actual imbalance.Henry also said there was a patent on this device that is dated January 14, 1997. The inventor is a Japanese man named Minatu. The spelling of this name is uncertain. I did a search on the IBM server but found nothing even remote. Henry specifically said this was a United States patent. So, here it is. Perhaps Henry can come up with some more detail which can be used to update this file in future. Good luck....

 

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The Device actually has received a US patent.

More here: http://www.rexresearch.com/minato/minato.htm

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From the article in the Link:

 

"Minato's invention and its ability to use remarkably less power and run without heat or noise make it perfect for home appliances, personal computers, cellphones (a miniature generator is in the works) and other consumer products.

 

The magnetic motor will be cheaper than a standard motor to make, as the rotor and stator assemblies can be set into plastic housings, due to the fact that the system creates very little heat. Further, with the motor's energy efficiency, it will be well suited for any application where a motor has limited energy to drive it. While development is still focused on replacing existing devices, Minato says that his motor has sufficient torque to power a vehicle. "

 

PERFECT for electric cars, I should think

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Potentially very interesting, but given the number of patents taken out on this type of technology coupled with a lack of actual commercial/industrial products, something must (logically) be missing from the equation -- unless you subscribe to the Yakuza/Secret Gov't Agency/corporate quashing suppression theory... not saying it's not true, but where's the beef???

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Oh dear, oh dear! The idea of perpetual motion machines is almost as old as human intelligence, and it amazes me that even in the 21st century, there is no let-up of people who claim to have invented one. Not without good reason does the US patent office require a working model for any patent application relating to a perpetual motion machine.

 

Permanent magnets seem to appear frequently in PMMs, and the bottom line is, they de-gauss. One simply extracts the energy stored in a permament magnet. This is no different from any other resource driven energy source.

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Some time back I came across this site http://www.cheniere.org/ and found it interesting, and wondered why it had never taken off.

 

Was it because it was untrue, or being sat on by vested interests.

 

There appears to be a number of other free energy generating ideas; I wonder how these can be invested in, if indeed at all.

 

Would welcome your views

 

Regards

 

 

Frank

 

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if you find anything or anybody really willing to work together. or if you think they would. please contact me www://bmullen@cheappowerideas.com i work for a living but doing as much as i can. i am for real. we need to save ourselves. that looked like a book for sale. i am not selling anything except the fact that with our technology we should not have to work to stay warm.

 

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