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  1. 1. Is it time to welcome back cdswamp?

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    • Yes ? He?s been suspended for about the right length of time
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    • No ? He should stay suspended for longer
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    • No ? Never
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  2. 2. If longer, How much longer

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No dress needed. Pants are more than adequate.

An apology will be useful.

He will win more friends here, if he makes his posts a bit shorter.

But eliminating the abusive language is a necessity.

 

How is abusive language defined? And who defines it?

 

Even silence can be abusive language.

 

Human communication is constructed of parts that form wholes.

 

There is the written language and there is the unspoken language. Two parts that form our whole language

 

there are abusive words and then there is an abusive intention. Two parts of the same thing.

 

I wonder if people here are overly focusing on the parts and not seeing the bigger picture realities while imagining if you can avoid a naughty word and be sufficiently clever it does not matter how you set out to hurt somebody? Indeed if you can avoid naughty words and be hurtful that *is* superior and indeed you are in fact superior?

 

To some people these word games can be a witty game. And to others it is just abusive and hurtful and unnecessary in any form of discussion - particularly if the idea is to educate and encourage discussion of different points of view.

 

 

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Hi Dr Bubb,

 

I have just recieved an email from cdswamp, this is what he wants to say (I have summarised):

 

 

cdswamp has been in touch & would like to rejoin GEI, what tasks would you like him to complete?

 

He has suggested obtaining the Golden Fleece as a start ?? :)

 

So lots of regret and remorse for his disgraceful behaviour then? :unsure:

 

Seriously GOM, stop trying to justify his appalling conduct.

 

Catflap was bang on

 

CDS is incapable of a sincere apology

 

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No dress needed. Pants are more than adequate.

...

 

He needs to remove all his outer clothing. :lol:;);)

 

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pants

 

Pants

2. (UK, plurale tantum) An under garment worn by men or women that covers the genitals and often the buttocks and the neighbouring parts of the body; underpants, knickers , panties, shorts.

 

I’m only joking DrBubb, I know what you mean.

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In the criminal justice system, crimes are dealt with by punishment - after which we don't expect criminals to say 'sorry' or make any 'promises' before they get back all the same rights as anyone else.

 

Why should we operate any different at GEI?

 

cds has offended, been punished (temporary ban), and so now just let him back in and lets all get on with talking about more important things!

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How is abusive language defined? And who defines it?

We have a commitee that decides. There's one person on it. I am the chairman.

I do, however, listen for sounds of applause

 

In some families or communities, if someone misbehaves, they are expected to apologise.

Such communities tend to be highly civilised. And they are of the type I would like to live in

 

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We have a commitee that decides. There's one person on it. I am the chairman.

I do, however, listen for sounds of applause

 

In some families or communities, if someone misbehaves, they are expected to apologise.

Such communities tend to be highly civilised. And they are of the type I would like to live in

Foregiveness is a gift, it should not be conditional or require an apology

 

It is up to an offender if they wish to offer an apology, it should never even be asked for, let alone insisted upon

 

Members of communities/families will draw their own conclusions about an individual and their offerring (or not) of an apology

 

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right then, here it is:

 

CDSWAMP apology

 

I condemn what I did in seeking to discuss certain peripheral aspects

of finance within GEI, and in manipulating cut and pastes, regardless of

their objective, use or context.

 

It has been an extremely painful lesson. I am taking steps to put in

place measures which I hope will ensure nothing of this sort happens

again. :)

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So lots of regret and remorse for his disgraceful behaviour then? :unsure:

 

Seriously GOM, stop trying to justify his appalling conduct.

 

Catflap was bang on

 

CDS is incapable of a sincere apology

 

ok, thanks for your opinion (always actively encourage alterative viewpoints, even if they don't agree with mine).

 

 

I think you might owe cdswamp an apology ;)

 

the above comment is to be taken as a 'joke', I stress this as my virtual humour (& indeed my real life humour) is sometimes very direct & very dry apparently. For those who work in either public sector, Finance or IT, that was direct humour. ;)

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right then, here it is:

 

CDSWAMP apology

 

I condemn what I did in seeking to discuss certain peripheral aspects

of finance within GEI, and in manipulating cut and pastes, regardless of

their objective, use or context.

 

It has been an extremely painful lesson. I am taking steps to put in

place measures which I hope will ensure nothing of this sort happens

again. :)

Put in place measures?????

 

Is he going to tie one hand behind his back to prevent the typing of his stream of consciousnesses again !

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Put in place measures?????

 

Is he going to tie one hand behind his back to prevent the typing of his stream of consciousnesses again !

 

:D:D

 

ah, I have more a vision of one hand over his mouth to stop him shouting whilst the other is typing.

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right then, here it is:

 

CDSWAMP apology

 

I condemn what I did in seeking to discuss certain peripheral aspects

of finance within GEI, and in manipulating cut and pastes, regardless of

their objective, use or context.

 

It has been an extremely painful lesson. I am taking steps to put in

place measures which I hope will ensure nothing of this sort happens

again. :)

Hi GOM. Just how 'tight' are you with cds?

 

Do you exchange emails, or share the same workplace, house or body? :)

 

...if the latter, some great medications are now available for split perosonality disorder :)

 

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How is abusive language defined? And who defines it?

 

Even silence can be abusive language.

 

Human communication is constructed of parts that form wholes.

 

There is the written language and there is the unspoken language. Two parts that form our whole language

 

there are abusive words and then there is an abusive intention. Two parts of the same thing.

 

I wonder if people here are overly focusing on the parts and not seeing the bigger picture realities while imagining if you can avoid a naughty word and be sufficiently clever it does not matter how you set out to hurt somebody? Indeed if you can avoid naughty words and be hurtful that *is* superior and indeed you are in fact superior?

 

To some people these word games can be a witty game. And to others it is just abusive and hurtful and unnecessary in any form of discussion - particularly if the idea is to educate and encourage discussion of different points of view.

 

Great post. :)

 

 

 

note_to_self - do NOT do verbal internet battle with alive&kicking. :unsure:;)

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Hi GOM. Just how 'tight' are you with cds?

 

Do you exchange emails, or share the same workplace, house or body? :)

 

...if the latter, some great medications are now available for split perosonality disorder :)

 

I don't know him personally, but he has given me his full identity. Verified. :)

 

I personally like his style (although I do acknowledge that he has made some posting mistakes) & think he is a totally genuine person, with good intent, albeit highly coloured, emotional intent.

 

edited - we have been in communication by the medium of email, with humourous interjections.

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Hi GOM. Just how 'tight' are you with cds?

 

Do you exchange emails, or share the same workplace, house or body? :)

...if the latter, some great medications are now available for split perosonality disorder :)

 

I should have also commented on that. I think I probably would fit the bi-polar disorder type tbh :unsure: , I have on occasion shown OCD type tendancies.

Out of curiosity, would this medication affect my other medications ?

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We have a commitee that decides. There's one person on it. I am the chairman.

I do, however, listen for sounds of applause

 

In some families or communities, if someone misbehaves, they are expected to apologise.

Such communities tend to be highly civilised. And they are of the type I would like to live in

 

DrBubb

 

I think your answer can be made clearer.

 

I thought the objective here was to create a community?

 

It is the nature of a community that we all see things very differently and we all have different standards and expectations.

 

Communities function better when the rules required when *in* community are clear and easily understood

 

 

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can I just say on a seperate note, that this is a GREAT THREAD & I reckon should be nominated for one of Steve's:

 

Great Thread Awards. :)

 

now you're just taking the pi$$!

 

(with reference to a previous winner of the great post award!)

 

however, in light of this thread, I propose a new site name; gei = gentlemen's edge investing :rolleyes:

 

reet - so are we all sweet now and can we move on with the ban lifted?

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now you're just taking the pi$$!

 

(with reference to a previous winner of the great post award!)

 

however, in light of this thread, I propose a new site name; gei = gentlemen's edge investing :rolleyes:

 

reet - so are we all sweet now and can we move on with the ban lifted?

 

I don't know, but I was trying to inject a little humour into the thread.

 

Dr Bubb hasn't said ?

& to quote him directly:

 

"We have a commitee that decides. There's one person on it. I am the chairman."

 

so it's over to him.........

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