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52 members have voted

  1. 1. Is it time to welcome back cdswamp?

    • Yes - He?s been suspended for too long
      13
    • Yes ? He?s been suspended for about the right length of time
      12
    • No ? He should stay suspended for longer
      8
    • No ? Never
      19
  2. 2. If longer, How much longer

    • N/A
      43
    • 1 Week
      1
    • 1 Month
      6
    • 3 Months
      2


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SWAMPY is back ... walking on the Edge !

 

I am not suggesting someone is hacking GEI, I am suggesting that Bubb is being naieve to think it can't happen, especially after our Russian experiences earlier. If Bubb really wanted to get *valuable* demographics etc he shd have opened the poll to guests too, lurkers, who may or may not be far more in number than members, then he might get some valuable information for his expansion plans.

 

LOL

Swampy, you claim to know so much, yet you do not know the most basic thing:

Lurkers and guests are free to vote in any poll. All they have to do is sign up as members of GEI, then they can vote.

You should know (from your own experience) that non-members cannot post on GEI

 

DERAILING?

Yes, that seems to have happened. and it is regretable. But there will be other Polls coming along soon.

Meantime, please do KEEP VOTING. And thanks for the support of everyone.

 

Swampy:

"Swampy is a paranoid fellow (test) [ 102 ]

Trying to bait me into blowing up again, eh?

Blubb's idea was it?"

 

Did you ignore my post? I told you, that I would use that indicator to show that the numbers are only recorded

in agreggate for, not individually. I set the number at 99, and others added to it. I have knocked the number down to

(2), to show how the numbers are controlled in aggregate. If I can control this so easily, how valuable would any

individual data be to anyone, if it can be manioulated so easily?

 

"Blubb" is disrespectful. I wont tolerate such behavior from you towards me or anyone else here.

Consider yourself warned. Keep it up and you will be banned again for a long, long time.

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"Blubb" is disrespectful. I wont tolerate such behavior from you towards me or anyone else here.

Consider yourself warned. Keep it up and you will be banned again for a long, long time.

 

 

Eh??? Where is the quoted post from???

 

I think the reference is to Dr Bubb, being called 'Blubb'

 

but surely you can't call someone 'swampy' then moan about being called 'Blubb' ? ?

 

or have I misread your post Dr Bubb ?

 

edited - I am assuming that he has called you 'Blubb' btw.

edit 2 yes he has

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I think the reference is to Dr Bubb, being called 'Blubb'

 

but surely you can't call someone 'swampy' then moan about being called 'Blubb' ? ?

 

or have I misread your post Dr Bubb ?

 

edited - I am assuming that he has called you 'Blubb' btw.

edit 2 yes he has

 

From the other thread...

"If you cannot see the difference, I cannot help you."

 

I will try:

Many people have called him "swampy". It is almost a term of affection.

There was an environment hero called "swampy" wasnt there?

Image:

swampyis4.jpg

 

Also, I am the owner of this site. If he doesnt want to respect that, after I was willing to give him another chance here

(despite a 50/50 vote with almost as many saying they "never" wanted him back), then frankly, I dont want him here.

 

If he objects to being called "swampy", he is welcome to tell me so.

 

I consider myself an open-minded person, but I have limits. When they are breeched, I can slam the door

as hard as anyone.

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From the other thread...

"If you cannot see the difference, I cannot help you."

 

I will try:

Many people have called him "swampy". It is almost a term of affection.

There was an environment hero called "swampy" wasnt there?

Image:

swampyis4.jpg

 

Also, I am the owner of this site. If he doesnt want to respect that, after I was willing to give him another chance here

(despite a 50/50 vote with almost as many saying they "never" wanted him back), then frankly, I dont want him here.

 

If he objects to being called "swampy", he is welcome to tell me so.

 

I consider myself an open-minded person, but I have limits. When they are breeched, I can slam the door

as hard as anyone.

Ultimately, drbubb your own self-interest has to take precedence. GEI is an investment of time and money on your behalf. You may in time want to receive a return on investment in the future. You need to maintain the site according to YOUR standards. Even if you don't want to go down the pure commercialisation route - you dont want that option taken away from you.

 

We are guests in your house and house rules apply.

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Ultimately, drbubb your own self-interest has to take precedence. GEI is an investment of time and money on your behalf. You may in time want to receive a return on investment in the future. You need to maintain the site according to YOUR standards. Even if you don't want to go down the pure commercialisation route - you dont want that option taken away from you.

 

We are guests in your house and house rules apply.

 

I agree with that 100%. I think there’s too much (self-important) debate about freedom of expression in relation to this site. It’s Bubb’s site and he can run it how he wants. We should remind ourselves that GEI is a forum where people can exchange ideas: if they don’t like the site or its rules they can go and post elsewhere. I have learned more from this site than anywhere else and I do not appreciate seeing Bubb and others getting dragged into this when they have given so much to so many on this site.

 

Just my opinion, but aside from the occasional first class post, CDS spends most of his time rambling about conspiracies. Maybe they are true. Maybe they are not. I do not care. But why doesn’t he set up his own site?

 

GOM, you’re a good guy,I like your posts and I appreciate you are playing the middleman but don’t you think you’re being a bit disingenuous comparing the use of “swampy” with “blubb”?

 

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There was an environment hero called "swampy" wasnt there?

Image:

swampyis4.jpg

...

 

DrBubb, that 'Swampy' died a few years ago.

 

He had some kind of heart condition ever since he was born.

 

He had a heart attack during a protest, they rushed him to hospital but he died because he didn't want a bypass.

 

Did you get it? Didn't want a bypass!!! LOL LOL........... I'll get my coat

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It’s Bubb’s site and he can run it how he wants.

 

'tis true. But be mindful that these sorts of sites like GEI, HPC etc, depend on content generated by people other than the owner(s).

 

It's a very thin line between dealing with a nuisance and having a chilling effect on speech that compels people to leave and go elsewhere.

 

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Quote copied from the ‘other thread’

 

How do the people who argued for the return of cdswamp feel about the way cdswamp has acted since his return?

 

And is this really the sort of interaction you want to see on GEI?

 

To be honest, I’m concerned that anything I write might further inflame the situation. And that is not good position for what is essentially a debating / information board.

 

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'tis true. But be mindful that these sorts of sites like GEI, HPC etc, depend on content generated by people other than the owner(s).

It's a very thin line between dealing with a nuisance and having a chilling effect on speech that compels people to leave and go elsewhere.

 

Sure.

Think of it as a pub where the beer is free.

I provide the roof, and only a fraction of the beer. Others bring their own beer because they like drinking here.

That's fine, until someone comes along and squeezes sour lemons in the beer. A few may like it. Most do not.

I have asked him to stop squeezing the sour lemons all over the pub, and stick to a few tabkles where he is

welcome. Or better yet, start his own table (thread) in the pub.

 

I hope he takes the point, instead of trying to disrupt the pub.

 

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Swamp,

You are losing the battle:

Is it time to welcome back cdswamp?

Yes - He’s been suspended for too long [ 13 ] [27.08%]

Yes – He’s been suspended for about the right length of time [ 12 ] [25.00%]

No – He should stay suspended for longer [ 6 ] [12.50%]

No – Never [ 17 ] [35.42%]

 

Prior to your return, there was a slightly higher count in favor of "He’s been suspended for too long".

The opposite choice (never) is gaining.

 

Watch your step!

 

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You can take one off "Yes – He’s been suspended for about the right length of time," I voted rather prematurely! I think he's shown that "No – He should stay suspended for longer" won't make him change what got him suspended.

 

Done.

Swamp, your trial balloon here is losing altitude

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...It's a very thin line between dealing with a nuisance and having a chilling effect on speech that compels people to leave and go elsewhere.

I agree.

 

I don't appreciate being in a big brother society, and I wouldn't want to be part of a big brother chat site. I am also 100% sure that Dr Bubb does not want to be a dictator here, and he wants us all to contribute to the site's information, ideas, and rules.

 

Things have become a little difficult for Dr Bubb, given that he and cds don't seem to be getting on just now. I hope and believe, however, Dr Bubb will nevertheless take all our views into fair consideration before taking any action.

 

My view - we should keep trying to find ways to live together here, all of us! Some relationships that start real bad can be turned around and become valuable.

 

 

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cds - things might go better 'round here if you demolished the argument, not the person. That seems to be what starts each flare up don't you think?

 

...actually, and totally off point - I've just remembered an old girlfriend that was a bit like you cds (only female, of course!). She was the kind of person everyone noticed when she walked in the room, and she was amazing in bed, but she was latinesque in her temperament, and certainly not the kind of person you'd want to get into an argument with! Lasted for 2 years mind you, and I still remember her (hope Mrs BigT doesn't read this!!!).

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Sure.

Think of it as a pub where the beer is free.

I provide the roof, and only a fraction of the beer. Others bring their own beer because they like drinking here.

That's fine, until someone comes along and squeezes sour lemons in the beer. A few may like it. Most do not.

I have asked him to stop squeezing the sour lemons all over the pub, and stick to a few tabkles where he is

welcome. Or better yet, start his own table (thread) in the pub.

 

I hope he takes the point, instead of trying to disrupt the pub.

Interesting analogy!

 

Or perhaps its more like a debating society gathering (with drinks!). They're great fun, and even better if people feel free to argue for whatever what they believe in. But they go horribly wrong if people resort to personal criticisism when someone brings up things they deem to be distasteful or just insane.

 

So the trick is to let things get as edgy and open as possible, whilst jumping on any and all personal critcism in a totally even-handed manner ...hint, hint!!! ;)

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...actually, and totally off point - I've just remembered an old girlfriend that was a bit like you cds (only female, of course!). She was the kind of person everyone noticed when she walked in the room, and she was amazing in bed, but she was latinesque in her temperament, and certainly not the kind of person you'd want to get into an argument with! Lasted for 2 years mind you, and I still remember her (hope Mrs BigT doesn't read this!!!).

 

And just when I was thinking what a waste of time this thread is, you make it all worth while :D

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