aardvark

If selling the Cyprus gold is part of the resolution for that situation then what about Portugal, Spain, Italy etc etc?

 

They have a lot more gold.

true - but they would be mad to do so.

the thing is, cyprus only has 13.9 tonnes of gold - not a great deal considering the massive falls. Some good stuff on kingworldnews - apparently 155 tonnes of paper gold was sold in one hour in london, and central banks bought up 55 tonnes of physical - as far as i understand.

something massive is happening, something i don't understand.

god knows!

something big must be happening behind the scenes but its incredible that gold/silver can fall so low and nobody knows why!

wow, just wow.

scary to see my investment drop so fast and so much but staying the course as above.

Its a rigged market based on paper - i don't hold paper.

 

If you believe today's collapse in precious metals prices was caused by normal supply and demand factors and not orchestrated by the cabal pulling levers behind the curtain, then you're probably the type who'd also have an interest in buying bridges in Arizona or beachfront property in the Sahara Desert.

 

i agree, they physical supply just isn't there. The maguire comments are very interesting.

such a huge drop in gold for no particular reason is highly suspicious.

i wonder what is going on in the background.

i sold some silver on ebay recently - lucky really. but not that lucky since i still have loads!

just wait until the fiscal cliff, then we'll see what happens.

So you want a gold backed currency?

http://cafr1.com/SoYouWant.html

lol - nonsense as chris says.

 

Even better. lol. Seems to be such a long time ago but I remember it very well just like only yestarday.

also earlier than me - i starting thinking about it when gold was at $500, only started buying when it got to $600-$650.

I heard on the Kettler website that gold can be manufactured in unlimited quantities.

Here's an article which also claims this.

 

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/04/22/intel-disclosures-and-gossip-such-as-not-to-spoil-your-tea/

 

 

lol - what a load of bull.

In theory and assuming that the grocer will accept them, but the face value of a 1oz Britannia is £100 so it is not sensible to do so.

and sovs are 'worth' one pound, so not a good idea.

of course all the gov has to do to get tax off them is to declare them no longer legal tender but they haven't shown any sign of doing that in the last 100 years so its relatively unlikely imo

Just a question, for the physical hoarders, do you have to pay capital gains tax on your holdings?

coins which are legal tender (sovereigns and britannias) are exempt from CGT - everything else isn't.

Zipangu (Japan)

"The Land of Gold":

http://web-japan.org/nipponia/nipponia45/en/feature/feature02.html

 

“Zipangu” was actually a land of silver, not gold!

In 1397, the Muromachi Shogun Ashikaga Yoshimitsu had the Temple of the Golden Pavilion constructed in the Japanese capital, Kyoto. Much of the three-story pavilion was covered in glittering gold leaf, making it not just a gorgeously decorated Buddhist building, but also a symbol of Japan as a land of gold.

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By the time the Portuguese arrived in Japan in the mid-1500s, there was very little gold left in the Oshu region. On the other hand, Japan had by then become one of the world’s top producers of silver, much of it from mines at Iwami Ginzan and Ikuno Ginzan. Some reports ranked Japanese silver production at one-third of global totals. The Japanese archipelago became known as the Islas Platareas (Islands of Silver), and actually, Japan used some of that silver to buy large quantities of gold from Ming China! The Portuguese and others must have asked themselves whatever happened to all that gold in “Zipangu.”

gold leaf is so thin it can be transparent (gold is actually green when you look through it - interesting fact there).

covering a building in gold leaf requires very little. (just look at the number of books etc with gold leaf on them - it all adds up to only a small amount).

Is this guy a nutcase too... for talking about Gold reserves of 2mn or 2.5mn MT's?

 

 

Think about all the Chinese Tea, Chinese Silks, Chinese porcelain, and spices too that showed up in Europe and America. What did the West use to pay for it? It wasn't all opium. There must have been a steady flow of Gold and Silver : bars and coin to China.

baseless supposition - there is no evidence of all this gold, just talk on the internet, and talk is cheap.

as for paying for all the stuff we got from china - we offered a lot - our own texiles, technology, drugs, weapons. historical trade is not all about gold and silver.

David Wilcocks claims there is an additional 1,880,000+ MT of gold held out of the markets by the BIS & the FED to protect the fiat (non-gold backed) system and the Chinese want it back. He goes further and says he was told there is a hall, a mile long with rooms either side of the hall, the size of basket ball gymnasiums, stacked floor to ceiling with gold bricks. This is classic unified conspiracy nonsense, where every [suspicious|unprovable] activity for the last 66 years is connected to the story, to include JFK's assassination, September 11th and the collapse of building 7. To top it all off, David Wilcock's source in all of this is the insane Benjamin Fulford. You couldn't make this up... actually they did.

 

 

i agree - conspiracy theory nonsense from a nutcase.

No one has the exact numbers. But to me it makes a lot of sense that most gold was produced in modern times. Peak oil will mean peak gold IMHO. Also, that someone holds gold for the past 200 years (a very old someone indeed!) and now in the biggest paper money crisis ever will suddenly show up and dump it all at once is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. It is right up there with lizzard men, Elvis being alive and Michael Jackson being an alien (although, I regard the latter two as more likely :lol:). Even funnier that there are people who believe such things but don't acknowledge how central banksters and bullion banksters mess around with gold.

i agree, its ridiculous.

how did we get to the point where people actually believe these nutters on the internet?

i've got a crazy thought - how about some evidence/proof.

the crazier the theory the less evidence some people seem to require to believe it, its moronic.

Here here

 

I'm no expert on reading people but my intuition struggles to see Wilcock, Fulford and Icke as credible figures.

exactly - they are fantasists.

 

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Comment (from there):

i have learned a truth. our sun orbits another much larger sun, one ful orbit of the larger sun takes aprox 26,000 plus years. like our planet has differnt seasons as we orbit our small sun, so does the sun as is orbits the larger sun. 2012 is just an equinox, we are entering our suns spring time! (research indigo childs total recall.)

84kingode 7 months ago

comments like these are transparently moronic and clearly untrue - any star so close to us would be very visible to the naked eye.

You'll have a field day with this one, JD:

 

QUANTUM COMMUNICATIONS: The Science behind telepathy and faster-than light communications

 

David Sereda, interviewed by Mel Fabregas

 

MP3: http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Veritas-Radio-32k-111911.mp3

 

Veritas Radio with Mel Fabregas and his special guest David Sereda talking about the quantum communication device he built and sent a question out on August 20th, and a voice answered him. A voice from the Pleiades.

a rather odd mixture of fact and a lot of fiction.

sorry drB but the set of data is so small there is no way you cold come to any conclusion no matter what it showed. you need hundreds if not thousands of years of data to make the sort of conclusions you are stating, data we don't have.

you can zoom into any set of random data and find the sort of trends you are seeing but it doesn't mean anything.

There is a difference between an open mind and a 'I'll fall for any old baloney that someone wants to spout' mind.

 

 

+1

you should watch this drbubb

I'm not aware of any British silver coins that are CGT exempt.

they are legal currency so i assume they must be exempt??