LC1
-
Posts
459 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Events
Posts posted by LC1
-
-
-
And there's also good hip hop coming out of UK....I like this guy at the moment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wzWMWiT848
-
Have managed to put some time aside tonight to catch up on this thread and thought I'd respond to a few posts ...........
@ LC1.
Nice first few tunes posted. May I enquire as to when the 'Hip Hop' you posted was released?
I did enjoy and can honestly say I've not heard before. The reason why I ask is that I grew up listening to Hip Hop. In retrospect I find it hard to put what I heard as a young teenager in any sort of chronological order, whether it was the chart release of 'Rapper's Delight', the harsh reality of 'The Message' or perhaps the release of the Streetsound's Electro series that I first heard and that got me hooked on that 'sound' and 'culture'. I spent a lot of my teens walking around school listening to hip hop whilst most of the kids in my 'age' peer group were listening to either 80's synth pop or later on bands like Simple Minds, U2 etc. My tastes in music often made me an outsider, I dressed differently, I acted differently ........................... hell I often even talked differently. I've often heard myself referred to (at school reunion type events) as the kid who always wore head phones and was a bit 'weird / scarey / unhinged'.
There was a point, and I'm yet to put my finger on a estimated date, where hip hop and me fell out of love. Sure I hear some 'good' stuff, stuff with the same kind of vibe which you posted, but there's also so much funking garbage out there. I'd hate to think people thought I was looking down on recent 'Rap' (as it seems it is now defined) but the spark that was once there for me has been missing. I have tried to analyse why and can't quite get my noggin' round it tbh. The Hip Hop I enjoyed was always a combination of the 4 elements .......... breakin' , graffiti , mc'ing and dj'ing and I guess when I hear something that doesn't inspire 4 elements then it falls short of the mark. Perhaps? I still don't to this day know why I fell out of love ................ anyway, a couple of tunes to be going on with ......................
The above is the shortened version but wanted to post because the video also sets it's date. I can recall hearing their 'Jam on Revenge' blasting from a Ford Cortina at high volume and thinking "What the funk is that? Here's another example of how such tunes were promoted ............
@Underling
Thanks for the post, some great OG hip hop there!
The first tracks I posted are all contemporary, not sure of exact dates but all latter 2000s.
I feel what you're saying about falling out of love with hip hop, it has certainly changed over the years, as is natural. I think you're right that the 4 elements of breakin' grafiti, DJ & MC are no longer present as they once were.
But on that note, as an aside, here is a track you might like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXtJRv36ttU
But what I don't like is this idea that "hip hop is dead" (not saying you think this). What a joke! It's evolved, like things always do. Technology clearly plays a part in this. Personally I don't mind if a beat has been cooked up in the lab on a computer, or whether it's played with a live orchestra - I love tunes that use either method, as long as the beats get your head bobbing and the lyrics are meaningful.
You mention that 'hip hop' became 'rap', but I don't see it like that. Rap, to me, is the posturing hard-man, drug dealing, glocks and 9s, hos and whips, all that nonsense! I do have a weakness for some of that when it is done well (and we all know it's mostly BS anyway), I'm thinking of classics like Illmatic by Nas.
But I'm mostly into the vibe that resonates with the OG hip hop artists who used to rap with humour, or political and social commentary without the gangsta BS. There are tons of MCs doing this today, and tons of producers making killer beats.
I love the classics, like Sugarhill, Run DMC etc. Then the likes of tribe called quest, Eric B & Rakim, Blackstar, de la soul etc.
For me, there was a point where I felt that perhaps hip hop had indeed lost its way and the old stuff would never be matched again. It was all this east coast/west coast gangsta rubbish. But a pivotal album for me was Train of Thought by Reflection Eternal (Talib Kweli & DJ HI-Tek) in 2000. If you haven't heard it then I really recommend it. Some gangsta references but almost tongue-in-cheek, and some sincerely soulful and beautiful lyrically-driven tracks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIH32mSOx58
Talib Kweli remains for me one of the strongest lyricists around, but there are many more. I love hip hop for its continued ability to engage people with a social & political consciousness. Much like reggae did in the 70s and 80s, and still does today for those who care to listen (many people likewise think that reggae died with Bob Marley/Tosh etc.) But JA is an island of immense musical genius, and there is tons of great contemporary roots reggae, even though the beats are often largely synthetic nowadays! Some of it retains the original vibe of 70s and 80s reggae, but it has a distinctiveness of its own too, which I really love.
-
Have managed to put some time aside tonight to catch up on this thread and thought I'd respond to a few posts ...........
@ LC1.
Nice first few tunes posted. May I enquire as to when the 'Hip Hop' you posted was released?
I did enjoy and can honestly say I've not heard before. The reason why I ask is that I grew up listening to Hip Hop. In retrospect I find it hard to put what I heard as a young teenager in any sort of chronological order, whether it was the chart release of 'Rapper's Delight', the harsh reality of 'The Message' or perhaps the release of the Streetsound's Electro series that I first heard and that got me hooked on that 'sound' and 'culture'. I spent a lot of my teens walking around school listening to hip hop whilst most of the kids in my 'age' peer group were listening to either 80's synth pop or later on bands like Simple Minds, U2 etc. My tastes in music often made me an outsider, I dressed differently, I acted differently ........................... hell I often even talked differently. I've often heard myself referred to (at school reunion type events) as the kid who always wore head phones and was a bit 'weird / scarey / unhinged'.
There was a point, and I'm yet to put my finger on a estimated date, where hip hop and me fell out of love. Sure I hear some 'good' stuff, stuff with the same kind of vibe which you posted, but there's also so much funking garbage out there. I'd hate to think people thought I was looking down on recent 'Rap' (as it seems it is now defined) but the spark that was once there for me has been missing. I have tried to analyse why and can't quite get my noggin' round it tbh. The Hip Hop I enjoyed was always a combination of the 4 elements .......... breakin' , graffiti , mc'ing and dj'ing and I guess when I hear something that doesn't inspire 4 elements then it falls short of the mark. Perhaps? I still don't to this day know why I fell out of love ................ anyway, a couple of tunes to be going on with ......................
The above is the shortened version but wanted to post because the video also sets it's date. I can recall hearing their 'Jam on Revenge' blasting from a Ford Cortina at high volume and thinking "What the funk is that? Here's another example of how such tunes were promoted ............
@Underling
Thanks for the post, some great OG hip hop there!
The first tracks I posted are all contemporary, not sure of exact dates but all latter 2000s.
I feel what you're saying about falling out of love with hip hop, it has certainly changed over the years, as is natural. I think you're right that the 4 elements of breakin' grafiti, DJ & MC are no longer present as they once were.
But on that note, as an aside, here is a track you might like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXtJRv36ttU
But what I don't like is this idea that "hip hop is dead" (not saying you think this). What a joke! It's evolved, like things always do. Technology clearly plays a part in this. Personally I don't mind if a beat has been cooked up in the lab on a computer, or whether it's played with a live orchestra - I love tunes that use either method, as long as the beats get your head bobbing and the lyrics are meaningful.
You mention that 'hip hop' became 'rap', but I don't see it like that. Rap, to me, is the posturing hard-man, drug dealing, glocks and 9s, hos and whips, all that nonsense! I do have a weakness for some of that when it is done well (and we all know it's mostly BS anyway), I'm thinking of classics like Illmatic by Nas.
But I'm mostly into the vibe that resonates with the OG hip hop artists who used to rap with humour, or political and social commentary without the gangsta BS. There are tons of MCs doing this today, and tons of producers making killer beats.
I love the classics, like Sugarhill, Run DMC etc. Then the likes of tribe called quest, Eric B & Rakim, Blackstar, de la soul etc.
For me, there was a point where I felt that perhaps hip hop had indeed lost its way and the old stuff would never be matched again. It was all this east coast/west coast gangsta rubbish. But a pivotal album for me was Train of Thought by Reflection Eternal (Talib Kweli & DJ HI-Tek) in 2000. If you haven't heard it then I really recommend it. Some gangsta references but almost tongue-in-cheek, and some sincerely soulful and beautiful lyrically-driven tracks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIH32mSOx58
Talib Kweli remains for me one of the strongest lyricists around, but there are many more. I love hip hop for its continued ability to engage people with a social & political consciousness. Much like reggae did in the 70s and 80s, and still does today for those who care to listen (many people likewise think that reggae died with Bob Marley/Tosh etc.) But JA is an island of immense musical genius, and there is tons of great contemporary roots reggae, even though the beats are often largely synthetic nowadays! Some of it retains the original vibe of 70s and 80s reggae, but it has a distinctiveness of its own too, which I really love.
-
Posted here previously but if you in case you haven't seen this ...........
Ah, sorry, hadn't read the whole thread!
Great video on the Amen break....
Before I loved the Amen in Hip Hop I loved it in tunes like these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJcZMLV3quw&feature=player_embedded#!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSS8Zxuzmkw&feature=player_embedded#!
Hope they haven't been posted already?!
-
-
(ps how do I post the vids direct?)
You use the 'insert media' icon that looks like 3 Polaroid photos.
-
-
Yeah, I probably rate it the same. I couldn't rave about it to be honest, just thought it was, as you say, 'interesting'. Spent some of the weekend at a local folk festival milling around (and practising digeridoo!), though not my usual bag enjoyed some of the artists. This guy put in a good performance ......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7pBb3Q6StM&NR=1
Welcome to the thread LC1.
Thanks for the welcome. That reminded me a bit of this:
-
-
-
May I join this thread please?
Some Swedish Hip-Hop for you....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtmKuWPpjG0
The Best of Youtube - Music
in Gold, FX, Stocks / Diaries & Blogs
Posted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rluU6BGpKw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z51mbVAgAlk