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  1. And there's also good hip hop coming out of UK....I like this guy at the moment:

     

    Roots Manuva and Ty, Rodney P often get played at home. Around the time my tastes started to move away from hip hop Mud Fam and Brotherhood were coming to the fore. Nowadays most 'Rap' I listen to is mainly as an appearance on someone elses stuff.

     

    ** shrugs **

     

    I guess I'm getting old and out of touch. It's young mans game after all. :-)

  2. A slightly different tack to many...but I love Electronic music

     

    Enjoyed that. Haven't listened to G2G previously though and only come across them before on a tune called 'Journey of the Dragons'. I may have posted that here previously, I'm not about to trawl the thread to confirm so here it is .................

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzgWvISiFjw

     

    I really struggle to remember what I've posted here sometimes and I know I've posted this somewhere in the not too distant past so apologies if duplicated but along the same vein ...........

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm6pm5mCLXg

  3. And so things move on ............. Dj's no longer need Mc's, Mc's no longer need Dj's (just the right producer) and so hip hop ended. Infact today, and for so long no vocalist really needs a backing group, just the right producer.

     

    Perhaps that's why live or real music now appeals to so me so much more?

     

     

     

     

    (That said, give me some hot buttered popcorn with some attitude and hey, I'll still get down B) )

  4. What changed?

     

    I think technology did. The invention of the Emu and the sampler changed the game. It was easier to reproduce the early experimentations and expand ..................

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAQWUWMJxg8

     

    Paul Hardcastle, though often performing with a very cheesy grin and a stoopid jeri-curl haircut created a very innovative recording, there was simply nothing else like this at the time. Prior to this he created some very innovative recordings on the 'Zero-One' LP that did not contain any of the restrospective cheesyness. We now realise how easy this was to create and I guess because of that we now view it with contempt. Shame really, as a piece of music it really is quite a landmark recording.

     

    Here's another, related to the original post, that changed the game ............. infact it is almost an example of where innovative technologies broke a genre.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Jm_O2HtdI

  5. I used to get home from school each evening and get straight to practicing one of the elements, whether it was scratchin' something on the old Garrard deck I owned, doing a cut up thing with the pause button on a tape deck, practicing a 'glide' or a 'tut', or out writing my name or designing a 'burner' I was in up to my balls.

     

    I delved the history and learned about the pioneers .................. (could have posted many more but only 2 posts allowed :rolleyes: )

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf4KCn4lSsU

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyh4rk7bGqk

     

     

    Ok, musically these aint the best examples ............. I could mention many more, Treacherous 3, Funky Four, Sha Rock, Coke la Rock, Cold Crush, Crash Crew .............. the list goes on. My knowledge is purely limited to what is available info wise ............. I wasn't there ffs !!!!!!!!!

     

    Time moves on ...............

     

     

    cont/...................

  6. Have managed to put some time aside tonight to catch up on this thread and thought I'd respond to a few posts ...........

     

    @ LC1.

     

    Nice first few tunes posted. May I enquire as to when the 'Hip Hop' you posted was released?

     

    I did enjoy and can honestly say I've not heard before. The reason why I ask is that I grew up listening to Hip Hop. In retrospect I find it hard to put what I heard as a young teenager in any sort of chronological order, whether it was the chart release of 'Rapper's Delight', the harsh reality of 'The Message' or perhaps the release of the Streetsound's Electro series that I first heard and that got me hooked on that 'sound' and 'culture'. I spent a lot of my teens walking around school listening to hip hop whilst most of the kids in my 'age' peer group were listening to either 80's synth pop or later on bands like Simple Minds, U2 etc. My tastes in music often made me an outsider, I dressed differently, I acted differently ........................... hell I often even talked differently. I've often heard myself referred to (at school reunion type events) as the kid who always wore head phones and was a bit 'weird / scarey / unhinged'.

     

    There was a point, and I'm yet to put my finger on a estimated date, where hip hop and me fell out of love. Sure I hear some 'good' stuff, stuff with the same kind of vibe which you posted, but there's also so much funking garbage out there. I'd hate to think people thought I was looking down on recent 'Rap' (as it seems it is now defined) but the spark that was once there for me has been missing. I have tried to analyse why and can't quite get my noggin' round it tbh. The Hip Hop I enjoyed was always a combination of the 4 elements .......... breakin' , graffiti , mc'ing and dj'ing and I guess when I hear something that doesn't inspire 4 elements then it falls short of the mark. Perhaps? I still don't to this day know why I fell out of love ................ anyway, a couple of tunes to be going on with ......................

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbb7CDFDucw

     

    The above is the shortened version but wanted to post because the video also sets it's date. I can recall hearing their 'Jam on Revenge' blasting from a Ford Cortina at high volume and thinking "What the funk is that? Here's another example of how such tunes were promoted ............

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RJlYzBhLg4

     

    This is the stuff that moved my ear from reggae and ska revival into something different.

     

    cont/..............

  7. Ah, sorry, hadn't read the whole thread! ;)

     

    Great video on the Amen break....

     

    Radio 6 (answering Warpig's earlier question too) also recently did an hour feature on the 'Amen' break, I'll try and dig out a link if it's still available for listening. I haven't had the chance to listen through many of the recent posts so sorry if I haven't given a response etc .........

  8. I love orchestras with some sort of trip hop/DNB undertone. I really wanted to see Unkle play this year, but a friend selfishly had his stag do on the only night I could make it, gutted, maybe next year. If you find anything similar on your travels let me know!

     

    The Heritage Orchestra are also worth seeing. From their web page looks like they're doing a lot of dates in December.

     

    As an aside, I've yet to hear Shadow's new LP but some of the pre-release stuff sounds good. After hooking up during Shadow's UK tour and looking at the various comments made both by him and by James Lavelle afterwards relating to the Old Blue Note club-nights I wouldn't be surprised to see them work together again even if it's just a retrospective club gig. (a lot of encouragement from their audience too!). It may never come off but I'm going to keep my ear to the ground for that one. ;-)

  9. Interesting... :) I preferred the second piece.

     

    Yeah, I probably rate it the same. I couldn't rave about it to be honest, just thought it was, as you say, 'interesting'. Spent some of the weekend at a local folk festival milling around (and practising digeridoo!), though not my usual bag enjoyed some of the artists. This guy put in a good performance ......

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7pBb3Q6StM&NR=1

     

     

    Welcome to the thread LC1.

  10. around the time '90 came out we had 'acquired' a strobe light from the school lab and set it up in someone's bedroom (at a party) and played cobra bora at full pelt without any other lights - ahh the joys of being young and stupid!

     

    Nice Bob Marley's tune. Though my preference is his earlier stuff ............ (and dedicated to my youngest boy who loves this tune)

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo1Jsbbd0PM

     

    Another slept on basic .................

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK1_M7vnHVs

  11. Lost all my corn this year to rodents (I have a reservoir alongside my allotment and get a good deal of related pests). I've had some successes this year though and whilst I've still got leeks, runners, courgettes (coming to an end) and cabbage I've not planned for a winter crop and will start growing again in the spring next year.

     

    With my allotment being new to me this year (and has taken a long time to get tidied up) my biggest problem is the quality of the soil. I've got a good supply of muck to put on it for rotting down over the winter to hopefully improve the situation for next year. My compost heap will also see some fern & gorse added (which grows abundantly on the hillsides all around) which I'm told break down to produce nitrogen and potassium rich soil. (Please correct me if this is incorrect).

     

    It's a shame I'll not be able top grow in the winter but I'm hoping by missing this winter and concentrating on improving the soil for next year and subsequent years longterm I should produce better results.

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