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Abandoning HIPS may add £500-800 of searches on to the 'up front money' needed to purchase a house. This could move the demand curve back by a few months too.

Do you see wages being suppressed for 25 years? It's important to remember that 'inflating away the debt' can happen at any point in the life of the debt. It doesn't have to happen tomorrow or next week or next year.

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I don't think you want a multi-page slanging match any more than I do. I'll end by putting forward my own view from the other side: Working class people are happiest when they are able to take home an honest days pay for an honest days work. [insert house price / salaries ratio comment to keep post on topic]

Why are you bashing your peers? Maybe I am miss reading your post. This is how I am interpreting your post

You should start a 'Bash the working classes' thread.

Renters get much more help. Full rent paid from day one. EDIT: Please vote for Property Bee http://www.property-bee.com/forum/viewtopi...p?f=2&t=833

Not a good Idea IMO. Make sure you keep your receipts (read the summary below if you haven't time for the full article) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/ar...er-fortune.html

Yes it does and I understand why you want to buy a house too. I should add to the above, I have a 10% cash deposit too at the moment and I hope this will be enough to secure a mortgage without selling any gold or silver. EDIT: And I should also add: We're planning a family at the moment so we will hopefully be down to one wage this time next year.

I might buy a house soon too. It's going to be a small house, 2 times joint earnings. I'm going to buy it with maximum mortgage and minimum deposit. i.e. sell the minimum amount of gold. I hope to buy a bigger house in 2 to 5 years time. My PM stash is 25% of our joint earnings. How does this affect the way you interpret my view btw?

This foolishness is being rewarded. The bankers have got away with it.

More MSM gold http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currenc...our-breath.html

There's a video (I think it is on one of the Iceland Threads) of a woman who moved her money into JPY before the collapse. She'd been phoning her bank every day but nobody answered Can you change the tittle of this thread and merge all the threads back together?

I remember GF asking. I can't remember seeing any response from the mods/admin team. Did DrBubb ever respond to explain? There's a thread on it http://www.greenenergyinvestors.com/index.php?showtopic=7925

Was it impossible to change the thread tittle to keep us all together? The split looks permanent to me

It feels like 'divide and conquer' to me EDIT: Why has 'investing' been removed from the thread tittle? Has anyone asked DrBubb / Steve NW?

I thought the same too... BUT these guys take credit cards. http://www.airedalecoins.co.uk http://www.weightoncoin.co.uk/coins/ I have used the first one, others on this site have used the second one.

I haven't heard of them. They are a very new company Date of Incorporation: 25/11/2008

OFF TOPIC: What's your avatar?

Good points Schaublin. Presumably, Iraq will still accept Sterling for oil?

Yes, good point. I suppose there isn’t enough of anything (not even one ounce bullion coins) to use as money if fiat becomes worthless. People did hoard them! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gresham's_law 26 grams pure silver. :lol: You’ve just proved that ounces are not as simple as you claim. Can you see your mistake? What country are you in? There are several

Very little will be easy and convenient IF society breaks down. The question is - "What is the easiest and what is the most convenient?"

British coins worked successfully as coins for many years and people will take to them very easily IMO. A lot of the older people I know often say, "Shilling", "10 Bob", "That's £5 in new money...." Many people still recognise the Shilling as 'the old 5p' and the Florin as 'the old 10p'. There are still 20 or 10 (respectively) of these coins in a £1. Once you remember this simple similarity, it is quite straight forward to remember that a 6d is half a Shilling and a 3d is half a 6d. A Crown is 5 Shillings. I have many one ounce billion coins. These have never been in circulation in the UK so people will not recognise them. IF TSHTF, I suspect a one ounce Britannia coin will be downgraded to a Crown. whilst some of the foreign coins will not be accepted at all.

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Pre decimal coins are not GCT free as they are no longer Sterling 'currency'. BUT... the coins cannot be melted down legally in the UK as they are still Sterling 'coins' The 3d you are thinking of is a post 1937 brass coin. The silver 3d is round. Pre 1947 6d's are silver. Check out the website below Images from http://www.coinsgb.com/index.html ebay is the best place to get pre 1947 silver coins in my experience. They were selling pretty cheap last time I bought (around a year ago). The Sovereign* (8 grams) replaced the Guinea (8.4 grams) in/around 1817. Both coins were the official £1 coin of their time so they are both officially worth 20 Shillings. However, the Guinea contained more gold so it became a £1+1 Shilling coin after changeover to Sovereign (0.4 gold grams = 1 Shilling). Unofficially, the number of Shillings per Guinea varied depending on the value of gold. * There is an older Sovereign but my knowledge of coins doesn't go back far enough.