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  1. In GBP its still cheaper now then it was in Feb / Mar 2009, spot was £680 then due to the weak pound. Spot today is about £654
  2. I can see this running to 1100 then taking a breather. Nothing goes up in a straight line but I cant see sub 1000 Just a theory but if we are going to have a good earning season then isn't it in the intrest of the " Cartel " to let the price run up ( it must be all those speculators ) and they can save some ammo for when the market takes a turn for the worst, maybe first quater next year.
  3. 1059.65 Strong demand in the NY morning session, this really is a change of pattern.
  4. This can be a very valid point, lack of formal training ( conditioning ) really lets the mind think freely.
  5. It went through it like a knife in butter
  6. Yes, thats what I mean. The programs are telling the public exactly what they shouldnt be doing.
  7. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00mw...es_9_Episode_9/ Wales's best consumer stories with Lucy and Rhodri Owen. As Rhodri gets out and about, Lucy shares top tips for money saving, while roving reporter Rachel Treadaway-Williams investigates viewers' consumer problems. Shops and stalls offering to buy gold for cash are springing up on high streets and in shopping centres across Wales, but how do you know whether you're getting the right price for old jewellery, and what should be sold for scrap and what valued as an antique? Rhodri presents the definitive guide to selling gold, and highlights the huge variation in prices offered in different towns. Nice to see the consumer programs telling everyone to sell their gold, lots of questions about are you getting the right price but nothing about whether you should actually sell your precious commodity It remminds of the same consumer programs encouraging people to buy stock before the dot com bubble burst or the wonders of BTL investment in 2006 / 2007.
  8. BEIJING, Sept 21 (Reuters) - China is considering buying gold being offered for sale by the International Monetary Fund, Market News International said on Monday, citing two unnamed government sources, but the report could not immediately be confirmed. http://in.reuters.com/article/domesticNews...P48213620090921 Is the IMF's bluff being called ?????
  9. I believe it is. This has been building up again for a while. People are paying a premuim to hold gold today ( near month ) rather than wait for delivery in the future ( future contract month ). Happened last year too. Loads of discussions as to what this actually indicates.
  10. I have not seen backwardation discussed on here for a while. Does this siginal another leg up ???? http://www.gata.org/node/7723 I have received a deluge of mail from readers of my latest article on the gold basis and the threat of the coming permanent backwardation in gold. I truly appreciate the interest of my readers in learning my thoughts on the subject. I regret that it is not possible for me to answer these letters individually; I make an attempt here to answer one or two, where the questions are general enough so that my answers may benefit all readers. . . . Hello, Antal: I have questions about your "Dress Rehearsal for the Last Contango." 1) Will not gold at +$1,000 per ounce restore gold holdings registered at Comex warehouses? If not, why not? 2) When the gold basis goes negative, could it not subsequently go back to positive, assuming the price rises to over $1,000? If not, why not? 3) Why must gold backwardation, once established, become permanent? I should like to hear your reply to these questions. I am really very interested in understanding fully the implications of the vanishing basis for gold, and I hope you can provide me with your answers to my questions. With warm regards, Victor . . . Dear Victor: For a full discussion on the gold basis and the permanent backwardation in gold you must come to Canberra, Australia, where the Gold Standard Institute will have a seminar in November. This seminar is second devoted exactly to these topics. Last year's seminar was a great success; this year's will be an even greater one. I am confident to say that Canberra is the only place in the world where you may get scientific information on gold contango, gold basis, gold warehousing, bimetallic arbitrage, and the prospects of permanent gold backwardation as well as answer to a host of tantalizing questions that arise from these. We shall have an expert on hand from the Perth Mint. And as an absolute first, we shall have the manager of Masters Fund, a unique gold fund just coming on stream, to answer questions. I am proud to say that I have been associated with this fund from inception throughout the incubation period. The Masters Fund is offering exclusive features not available from any other fund, such as: 1) The guiding star of the fund is not the dollar price of gold, but the gold basis which is much less open to manipulation, and much more relevant to an accumulation plan. 2) The gold in the fund bears a return in gold, so profits are measured not in terms of the U.S. dollar but in terms of gold itself. 3) Any appreciation of the fund's value in U.S. dollar terms is additional, but the maximization of dollar value is not a prime objective. 4) The gold in the fund is never put out on lease or on loan, nor can it be pledged as collateral, but stays on the premises at all times under the full control of the fund. It has never happened before that you could collect the return on capital unless you were willing to relinquish temporary control over it and thereby assume the risk of losing it. This could be important at a time when wholesale defaults on paper gold contracts may engulf the world. 5) The principle on which the fund operates is valid whether the monetary metals are in a bull market or a bear market. 6) The fund is especially recommended to those individuals who are in the habit of measuring the value of their assets and their own net worth in gold units rather than irredeemable paper units such as the US dollar. 7) The fund is structured in such a way as to take full advantage of the coming permanent gold backwardation, when all other gold funds will be grounded. Of course false alarms can and do occur, and it is possible that gold goes into backwardation and then promptly comes out of it. It has happened before. But we are looking at a 35-year trend, embracing the entire history of gold futures trading. The trend has been that, as a percentage of the prevailing rate of interest, the basis has been falling from practically 100 percent to practically 0 percent. You and I know the reason for this. It has to do with the vanishing of all newly mined gold into private hoards at an accelerating pace, the insatiable appetite in the world to snap up all available gold by well-heeled governments and individuals who no longer believe in the tooth fairy residing in the Federal Reserve. You have to remember that the basis is widely used as a guide in the huge arbitrage operations between gold holdings and dollar balances and in the gold carry trade. To participate in this arbitrage you must have gold on deposit in Comex warehouses. But with the vanishing of the gold basis the profitability of this arbitrage as well as that of the gold carry trade has been drying up, which explains the dwindling of warehouse stocks. Another consequence of the vanishing of the gold basis is that it makes the risks involved in the gold/paper arbitrage rather lopsided, as far greater risks are assigned to short positions on gold and long positions on the dollar than on long positions on gold and short positions on the dollar. The arbitrageurs are very much alive to this lack of symmetry and are increasingly unwilling to put their gold in harm's way. They are fully aware that we are approaching an historic milestone, one that has never been passed before: the milestone marking the last contango. As a consequence of this lopsidedness the gold futures markets can no longer coax gold out of hiding. In vain do futures markets promise risk-free profits for taking over the carry from the individual. Here is the deal they offer you: Give us your cash gold in exchange for gold futures that we'll let you have at a deep discount so that you can pocket risk-free profits. The offer is increasingly declined. There was a time when a drop in the basis would pull in gold from the moon, figuratively speaking. No more. Arbitrageurs no longer believe that gold futures are fully exchangeable for cash gold. Gold backwardation is virtually inevitable, and when it comes, it will be irreversible. Why? Because it signifies a crisis of the first magnitude: the general disappearance of gold from trade for reasons of lack of confidence. No one will give up gold, because one is no longer confident that he can get it back on the same terms. Vanishing confidence is like a runaway train The only thing that might turn this runaway train around is a steep rise in US interest rates. However, this is not in the cards. It would ruin what is left of the US economy. It would also cause the bond market to collapse, sending the dollar down the drain. I do not see the collapse of the bond market happening any time soon. The US Treasury and the Federal Reserve can muddle through this crisis, and possibly beyond, by making bond speculation risk-free in order to maintain demand for Treasury paper. Having said that, I don't think the guys at the US Treasury and Federal Reserve understand the gold basis and the seriousness of the threat of permanent gold backwardation. They are just trying to hold the line at $1,000 for whatever psychological value it may have, for as long as they can. It's the same old tug of war, they think. It is not. Once the $1,000 level is breached, there may be some "profit taking," to be sure. But because of the zero basis, those who take profits will look rather foolish. Last contango -- last profit taking. Be prepared for a great wave of defaults on paper gold obligations. Certainly, the lessees of central bank gold will default. Comex will close its gold pit for good, and outstanding contracts will be settled on a cash basis. I will be surprised if any gold ETF shareholders will see a grain of gold coming their way out of the rubble left by the default. Comex gold certificate holders will be lucky if they can get a fraction of their gold back from the warehouses -- after a lengthy wrangle. Too many claims have been issued on the same lump of gold. Under these circumstances it is difficult to see how anyone could wish to deposit gold in a Comex warehouse to restart gold futures trading. The market for slaves disappeared after emancipation never to come back again. The gold futures markets will disappear, utterly (and deservedly) discredited. Like the slave markets, they will never come back.
  11. Sell some PMs. You can always buy back later. Maybe sell nearer the time when you need the money. Good chance we will get a pop up in price as the autumn / winter months draw in. Keep your core and rebuild when you can. The reason you bought it was as a store of value, so its done its job. You never know when you might need emergency Fiat money (thats why its there). If its paper gold, sell some now, sell some later, cost average the same as when you buy. If you have any intertesting bullion, why not ask forum members if they want it ??? ( may help you on your margins, rather than having to take a dealer hit ) or you could tread into the murky waters of ebay.
  12. What just happenned ( well an hour ago ) ???? Sorry, just answered my own question http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews...19?rpc=401&
  13. Guys have you seen the premuims @ CID for back dated krugs. They went up this morning, I thought it was a mistake but its still the same Buy £565 - sell £662 !!!!!!!!! They have lots of other coins at reasonable prices, but it looks like they are either running low on supply or they want to hold them back for later in the year Or they just need to thin out other stock Interestly goldline have just reduced the price on krugs to £609
  14. A new thread has now opened, talking about the theoritical ways of " under carating " coins. Official Gold coin specification vs theoretical weight . Very interesting http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=393089 Original closed thread http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=392148 The maple looks fine Just stop fondling your coins
  15. http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread....2148&page=6 I think the 2009 fake Philly story was a windup. The great Scorpio over there has closed the thread. It was turning into a bit of a slanging match. You can all sleep well tonight Regarding the off coloured maple, its not unusual to have bullion coins of the same type being a slightly different shade. If it measures up ( thickness , diametre and weight ) ok then its real.
  16. Checkout the video this guy just posted on the 2009 Philly http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread....2148&page=5 The real specs should be 2.0mm thick, 37.00 mm diametre, weight 31.1030 This coin comes in at 36.96mm diametre, 1.68mm thick and 31.10 weight Could you tell the difference without measuring it ?? It might still all be a wind up, but still very interesting
  17. Have you seen this on goldismoney, possible fake 2009 phillys on the market. May end up to be nothing but the OP seems quiet convinced Well worth reading the whole thread, waiting for the assay results http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=392148
  18. Did anyone watch "Supersave Me" on BBC2 last night ? BBC promoting gold as an investment ??? Should we be worried ??? I cant explain it but I am feeling a lot more twitchy this summer than last. I think it might be all this "green shoots " talk, which I really dont buy but stll I keep questioning my views. Maybe I just need a holiday Is it a buying opertunity today in £ ?? Or will it be better to wait til August, I wonder
  19. No comments on the up and coming bank holiday ??? Historically the summer months are down months, this week / weekend could be of interest to the downside ???
  20. What do you guys think will happen coming up to and going over the Bank Holiday weekend ( 4th July ) ??? Thin markets seem to always move the market one way or the other. Will the cartel use it to bash gold ???
  21. Krugs are arguably the most tradable coin in the world. A married couple only really have to worry about CGT is you have a few hundred and want to dump them on the market at once. This probably wont happen, more likely you will buy a few and sell a few as when you need cash flow. You could have walked into ATS in 2007 and bought as many Krugs as you needed, someone is hoarding :-)
  22. Has ATS had issues getting Krugs over the past few months ??? Anyone been in there in the last month and asked ????
  23. Why not try your luck with the forum members first ?? Or just walk into ATS / Baird / Chards, all will give you a fair price. Or you could enter the murky world of ebay, watch out for high fees and scammers
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