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According to info from Dr.RAM, there were quite a few subjects that had been "put on the table" for possible discussion SUBJECTS - that had been proposed for discussion on C2C ========= + EMBRYO + ESP Nexus book review (2010), on ESP Induction through forms of Self-Hypnosis + ESP Nexus + HCR / Holographic Reality (1973) + new directions in mind control + synthetic telepathy + CordycepsArticle-Nexus + bioluminescence

COMMENTS on the C2C show from another site > http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/3649864/posts?page=1 ========== EXCERPTS: + So, is it bullshit or factual goodness? + all media consists of factual goodness peppered with varying amounts of bullshit and this is no different + If John B Wells is hosting, he will tell you if its bullshit or not. He doesn't let fucktards ramble about crap. He asks deep questions and gets to the point. I think I recall him kicking someone off the air for talking about nonsense one time. + This show is awesome. That's 1984 right there. State of National Emergency... + mind=blown + Love coast to coast + I like this website idea. + The guy talks like a gacked-up John Wayne. + some pter needs to call this guy and ask him about n20 dimensions and time traveling + I love this tribal movement shit. Fuck yes.

Dr Miller has just done an interview with Coast-to-Coast. He went a bit fast in the beginning, but once he slowed down, I think the material was highly interesting. Rick is well-informed, and very knowledgeable in many fascinating areas. I would be interested in hearing comments on what he said, and if there are questions, I may be able to past them to Dr.Ram for his comments and some answers. (You can join GEI for free, but you may need to know that my "favorite" flying creature, is Admiral Byrd, but the second word is spelled differently.)

Richard Alan Miller - in a debut appearance on C2C: Dr RAM's on now... LIVE: http://player.originpull.cdn.liquidcompass.net/KIROFM # 2 ::: http://www.kfir720am.com/

IMPACT OF INFRASTRUCTURE Investments I haven't looked at SQUAREFOOT magazine for a while. So yesterday, when I picked up the 1 Jan. 2014 Issue - No.187, I was surprised to find the information on the Property Index page, (pg.19) They have a comparison between Four Different indicies, including the main "Mass Residential Index", and three indices which track different segments of the HK Property market. Two of the segments are related to infrastructure investments: ... Index--------------------- : 07-12 : 10-12 : 01-13 : 04-13 : 07-13 : 10-13 / Change Mass Residential----- : 184.5- : 202.5 : 212.8- : 277.3 : 284.7- : 283.5 / +53.7% Luxury Index---------- : 222.2- : 221.4 : 248.2- : 330.1 : 314.6- : 332.7 / +49.7% Ratio: LI-to-Mass----- : 1.204r : 1.093 : 1.167r : 1.190 : 1.105r : 1.173 / - 2.53% Kowloon East--------- : 186.5- : 206.7 : 214.6- : 280.5 : 291.7- : 287.6 / +54.2% Ratio: KE-to-Mass--- : 1.011r : 1.021 : 1.008r : 1.012 : 1.025r : 1.014 / +0.34% Shatin-Central Link-- : 185.6- : 204.6 : 209.4- : 303.6 : 283.1- : 296.5 / +59.8% Ratio: SC-to-Mass--- : 1.006r : 1.010 : 0.984r : 1.095 : 0.994r : 1.046r / +3.96% ================= The Shatin-to-Central Link "play" has been the most profitable of the three sub-sectors, but the "extra" gain is not much, something like 4% more. What are these? Luxury Index: Properties over 1,000sf in 10 HK locations, + Kowloon Tong, etc. Kowloon East: Three districts highly affected by the "Energizing Kowloon East Program": namely Kwun Tong, Wong Tai Sin, Kowloon City districts Shatin-Central Link: Four districts benefitting from the MTR expansion: namely Tai Wai, Diamond Hill, Homantin, and Hung Hom/ To Kwa Wan. == Index ----------------------- : 07-12 : 10-12 : 01-13 :: 04-13 : 07-13 : 10-13 : Loss/Gn Mass Residential--------- : 184.5- : 202.5 : 212.8- : 277.3 : 284.7- : 283.5 : +53.66% Centaline Index, mo end : 106.5- : 114.4 : 119.1- : 118.8 : 121.0- : 119.5 : +12.21% Ratio: CCLI-to-Mass----- : 57.7% : 56.5%: 56.0% : 42.8%: 42.5% : 42.2%: -26.98% Sorrento, Kowloon Cent. : 16123 : 15744 : 16685 : 15024: 15186 : 17029 : +5.62% Ratio: Sorr.-to-Mass----- : 87.39r : 77.75 : 78.41r : 54.18 : 53.34 : 60.07r : -31.27% Ratio: Sorr.-to-CCLI----- : 151.4r : 137.6 : 140.1r : 126.5 : 125.5 : 142.5r : -5.88% ===== That crazy jump from 212.8 to 277.3 (+30.3%) in Q1-2013 makes no sense, and it undermines the credibility of the Mass Residential Index.

"Red Queen" ? I am not sure. Either, the name of a web poster, or maybe: An iconic "symbol", which has special meaning to him. I will do some research... The "Red Queen" in Through the Looking Glass =============== The Red Queen is a fictional character in Lewis Carroll's fantasy novella, Through the Looking-Glass. She is often confused with the Queen of Hearts from the previous book Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, although the two are very different. With a motif of Through the Looking-Glass being a representation of the game of chess, the Red Queen could be viewed as an antagonist in the story as she is the queen for the side opposing Alice. Despite this, their initial encounter is a cordial one, with the Red Queen explaining the rules of Chess concerning promotion — specifically that Alice is able to become a queen by starting out as a pawn and reaching the eighth square at the opposite end of the board. As a queen in the game of Chess, the Red Queen is able to move swiftly and effortlessly. . . . Red Queen's Hypothesis: The Red Queen's Hypothesis, Red Queen, "Red Queen's race" or "Red Queen Effect" is an evolutionary hypothesis. The term is taken from the Red Queen's race in Lewis Carroll's Through the Looking-Glass. The Red Queen said, "It takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place." The Red Queen Principle can be stated thus: "For an evolutionary system, continuing development is needed just in order to maintain its fitness relative to the systems it is co-evolving with." The hypothesis is intended to explain two different phenomena: the advantage of sexual reproduction at the level of individuals, and the constant evolutionary arms race between competing species. In the first (microevolutionary) version, by making every individual an experiment when mixing mother's and father's genes, sexual reproduction may allow a species to evolve quickly just to hold onto the ecological niche that it already occupies in the ecosystem. In the second (macroevolutionary) version, the probability of extinction for groups (usually families) of organisms is hypothesized to be constant within the group and random among groups. == > wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Queen_(Through_the_Looking-Glass) Is the Red Queen opponent somehow fighting us... by spewing out misinformation ?

These VIDEOS may jog some memories about the X-files X-Files: The Truth About Season 1 (Part 1 of 2) = = "Do you believe in the existence of Extra-terrestrials?" The X-Files: Inside The X-Files (Documentary) = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nhEIIFupr0 = "Might we finally turn to the "fantastic" as a possibility?"

Dr. RAM will be on Coast-to-Coast this weekend, interviewed by John B Wells. I think it will be a cracker! And C2C has an audience of over 20 Million people (!) I believe, so Dr. Rick will be better known after the show I don't know if the interview will pick up on it (probably will), but some say that Dr RAM is "the real life Fox Mulder" (of X-files), and his ex-wife Iona was the original Dana Scully. After all these years, certain truths are finally coming out !

INTENT MATTERS (excerpt from an email received from Dr Miller): "certainly Keshe has placed his reputation on the line, so his intent is most important (not the Physics)" (more excerpts): ...one of the downloads is a similar scenario of Fukushima becoming an extinction event - created from algebraic algorithms using key works from the internet = to generate accurate predictions of our future. time-lines can be altered (changing the movie), but it will require a change in group consciousness (collective unconscious). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_unconscious "Good luck with that" message..... the new Physics of structured waters may hold the key on how "psyche goes into matter." further, "time is only a duration of consciousness" (Ornstein) - it is not real, but a subset in a holographic universe model.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Ornstein again, thank you for your part and contribution - would also make myself available for an interview on this subject = once each of us "gets it" and begin "walking out talk," it will be our children that actually save this world.

"INTENT matters" (from an email received from Dr. Miller, a reaction to Jeffrey's article): == QUOTE == good morning, Jeffrey: you did a very nice job recapping Kerry Cassidy's interview Thursday. also, appreciate your personal comments toward my work, and will post this on facebook (for your own exposure). make a note = will be speaking on C2C Saturday night with John Wells, covering some of these topics. would also like to stay closer in touch, as your sense of "spin" is critical right now. am learning from you (and my "Red Queen") better ways to approach this problem regarding disinformation (TEPCO, et al). unfortunately that abounds everywhere now, as fear dominates rational thinking - confusing "what needs to happen first." this link was sent to me by a listener. however, both you and my "Red Queen" suggest that we focus first on the "problem," rather than play the "blame game" or credibility. certainly Keshe has placed his reputation on the line, so his intent is most important (not the Physics). http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=295856 One of the downloads is a similar scenario of Fukushima becoming an extinction event - created from algebraic algorithms using key works from the internet = to generate accurate predictions of our future. time-lines can be altered (changing the movie), but it will require a change in group consciousness (collective unconscious). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_unconscious "good luck with that" message..... the new Physics of structured waters may hold the key on how "psyche goes into matter." further, "time is only a duration of consciousness" (Ornstein) - it is not real, but a subset in a holographic universe model.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Ornstein again, thank you for your part and contribution - would also make myself available for an interview on this subject = once each of us "gets it" and begin "walking out talk," it will be our children that actually save this world. Dr. Richard Alan Miller

As mentioned in a call on Joyce Reilly's show Slow down the sounds of crickets, and you get a chorus of Angels AMAZING!!! "Gods Cricket Chorus"... You Have to Hear it to Believe = = Are they having an impact of the water around them? A weird coincidence is that : some have said that "praying mantis beings are highly spiritual" http://img.ehowcdn.com/og-image-tag/ehow/images/a05/r8/3c/preying-mantis-habitat-800x800.jpg

Joyce Riley Power Hour - Interviewed Dr.RAM Joyce Riley is an outspoken, upholder of American ideals and traditions with seemingly limitless charisma. She is fueled by her desire to keep Americans informed of the challenges this country is faced with everyday. In the spirit of democracy Joyce welcomes callers to speak their minds and share their knowledge. As we all know knowledge is power, that's why we call this The Power Hour! Help us restore the Constitution to its rightful place of importance in the United States. Wed- 8 Jan. 2014 : Dr. RAM interview at just over halfway in Hour #2: ==== mp-3 /141: mp-3 /142: http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/power_hr/wrapper/podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/power_hr/0108142.mp3 mp-3 /143: http://podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/power_hr/wrapper/podcast.gcnlive.com/podcast/power_hr/0108143.mp3 ==== Jan. 8th, 2013 : Joyce Reilly's Power Hour : Dr Rick Miller "Fighting the Transition to Chaos" === LINKS JR's Power Hour- : http://www.thepowerhour.com/ : http://www.gcnlive.com/CMS/index.php/showinfo?showCode=32 Dr RAM's website : http://richardalanmiller.com/ Dr RAM's books - : http://oak-publishing.com/ RAM thread, GEI : http://www.greenenergyinvestors.com/index.php?showtopic=16914 DESCRIPTION: Breaking News: TEPCO will have a new chairman, someone to disclose what's happening. There's much disinfo on Fukishima, and many "scare tactics" are being used. "It is getting way out of control." The intelligence services have technology to predict the future. "At this juncture, everyone needs to become pro-active, to prevent an extinction event... that has been semi-orchestrated." But the good news is that things can be done to prevent it. It is about Group thought, where someone is creating a darker future for us. 2011-2020: A Transition to Chaos, in the financial world, and in our water and food supply.. "The real producing economy will collapse in the next 10 years... War is good for business, and it will take out many people. That's okay (say the elites), because there are too many people." Structured water can restructure our thoughts and our health. Many more issues come up, about how you can use you intentions to restructure your life. Dr. Rick says you must discover your purpose, and Love-of-Purpose is the highest form of Love. "We all know what needs to be done, we are just reluctant to do it... We need to get up off the couch." The real reason Fukishima is becoming an extinction event, is they were storing nuclear weapons material... Some think the accident was to embarrass them... I don't know (of that is true.)" When it rains, there is color in the hot spots. There was an explosion, that we were not told about... "It happened in 2011, everything got dusted then." What do we do?, Joyce asked. "It's time for everyone to get off the couch, and got to work on themselves... We can start a movement to shutdown all nuclear plants." Only 1% has been working on this. We need 5%... "If 5% stopped shopping at Walmart they would shut it down, that's what's happening with Fuikishima." "Emoto is too zen for me... But he has videos which show him changing water just by meditating.... Too zen, because I need to understand the physics." Gerry Pollock's book, The Fourth Phase of Water is excellent... It has to do with water, and how it changes, as it goes up against surface tension." The universe wants you to be discovering your purpose. "Everyone one of us, has something important to do... You have to become committed to the purity of that."

Do we need a new technology to "Fix" the Woes of Fukishima ? Project Camelot INTERVIEW with M.T. KESHE – RE FUKUSHIMA CLEAN UP - With special guests RICHARD ALAN MILLER, Matt Stein, Mike Harris : I wasn't impressed with how MK handled himself in the interview he did wth Kerry Cassidy: : http://www.livestream.com/projectcamelotlive/ : Listen to parts 1 and 2: My short NOTES on the Interview ============= I found it very hard to understand much of Mr. Keshe's language. (His accent is okay, but he swallows his words.) During the interview... RAM: Wanted to know more about how Mr K's plasma program will work. Thought that marijuana could remediate the ground, but it solves only part of the problem Keshe: (He talks about "their" plan, not how his will work !) Their plan is to freeze everything around the reactor - he thinks it cannot be sustained. Cesium is in the ground, and in the water, headed towards US and So.America. China may be hiding information. RAM: Japan may have been storing weapons grade plutonium at Fukishima Keshe: Will release Free Energy technology, and thinks he may be training millions of scientists in 2014. == == : Comment from another thread: CMJ : "This Keshe seems to be all hat and no cattle. I don't care for his fear porn." (to which I responded): "I think Keshe may (possibly) be right about the dangers of Fukishima, but I doubt if he has a solution" Dr.RAM seems to be a skeptic on Keshe's technology too. Dr Rick and Mike Harris also seem to doubt it, based on this subsequent interview Date: 01-06-14 Tonight's guest was Dr. Richard Alan Miller, the topic was the real story behind Fukishima and the actions needed to protect yourself and family from the fallout. MP3 : http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/mike_harris/hr1010614.mp3 ==== RAM - on Mike Harris Show / VIDEO now up on Youtube ==== "It is tough to get accurate info out of TEPCO about what is going on." "The amount of rods at Fukishima would suggest they were stockpiling weapons grade plutonium" (elsewhere): "If you ask Keshe what maths he is using, he will not tell you. That would tell you what physics he is using." "Matt Stein said if it works, we can use it, and sort out how it works afterwards." (But it will not be easy to Keshe to win over his critics with disclosure of his maths and physics." (NOTES from the YouTube video): Jan. 6th, 2013 : Mike Harris Show : Dr Rick Miller === LINKS Mike Harris show : http://www.renseradioarchives.com/harris/ Dr RAM's website : http://richardalanmiller.com/ Dr RAM's books - : http://oak-publishing.com/ RAM thread, GEI : http://www.greenenergyinvestors.com/index.php?showtopic=16914 ========= DESCRIPTION: Mike Harris and Dr. RAM were on a conference call organised by Project Camelot with Mr M.K. Keshe, who has developed some alternative energy technologies, and has offered to employ them in fixing the mess at Fukishima. Mike and Rick spoke in this interview of the need for discernment in evaluating claims on the web. Dr.Rick has concerns about the large number of rods stockpiled at Fukishima. Why? Mike pointed out that Japan is now considering to change its constitution, that prohibit's the country from forming an army. Might they feel they may need it in future territorial disputes? (Do they need land to escape their dying islands? -GF) Fukishima is now a world event, and new technologies may be needed to fix it." Is Man being pushed towards a darker path? Where's spirituality?", asks Dr Rick. "They are finding traces of plutonium everywhere. (As if) We've been nuked already." They spoke about how life is everywhere; maybe even in Fukishima's radiation. There's a growing realization of the connection between Life and Water. People across the globe have subconscious memories of "working on Mars, for the US government." We have a gene for cooperation and the "ability to change the movie". This is what makes Man God's favorite. We need to get together, and "turn off the switch." How? "Aliens are encouraging us to go dark... But we can change the program, one person at a time." The Bigger picture is about the Non-Local mind. We all have a job to do. And we will be "stuck in the swamp", until we get up off the sofa and do it. They went on to talk about what to do: Keep a journal (dialogue with yourself) etc. And many other things. In these days of roving radiation, "You do not want to be out in the rain." You need to pay attention to where your food comes from, and where its water supply comes from.

Here's an interview Kerry C did with Rebecca Journigan before the Keshe interview MP3 : http://projectcamelotportal.com/files/01032014WhistleblowerRadio-RebeccaJernigan.mp3

I think Keshe may (possibly) be right about the dangers of Fukishima, but I doubt if he has a solution Dr Rick and Mike Harris also seem to doubt it too, based on this subsequent interview: Date: 01-06-14 Tonight's guest was Dr. Richard Alan Miller, the topic was the real story behind Fukishima and the actions needed to protect yourself and family from the fallout. MP3 : http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/mike_harris/hr1010614.mp3 Probably Keshe is just using his "Fukishima solution" to support his other business

AN INTERVIEW WITH MT KESHE – RE FUKUSHIMA CLEAN UP - WITH SPECIAL GUESTS RICHARD ALAN MILLER, Matt Stein, Mike Harris LINK to a recorded version of the INTERVIEW: (Jan. 6, 2014) http://www.livestream.com/projectcamelotlive/ Kerry interviewed Keshe with regard to his recent statements and the Fukushima disaster clean up that he is working on today at 12 noon on the Camelot Livestream Channel. Physicist, Dr. Richard Alan Miller (http://projectcamelotportal.com/video-library/1467-richard-allan-miller ) will also be joining us in this important discussion. PLEASE SEND THIS NOTICE FAR & WIDE! WE MUST RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT FUKUSHIMA AND ASSIST KESHE AND HIS FOUNDATION IN THEIR EFFORTS TO SOLVE THIS NEAR EXTINCTION LEVEL FALL OUT. http://livestream.com/projectcamelotlive/ ( http://livestream.com/projectcamelotlive/ ) ************ M T Keshe the Iranian Physicist based in Belgium has made an important and challenging statement on his website/forum ( http://livestream.com/projectcamelotlive/ ) calling for 2014 to be the year that new technologies will be released to the public. …”By the end of December we will make sure, that there are no grounds for disruption for space travels on regular bases from all the nations on this planet that all shall harvest the reaches of the universe collectively and equally. Those who have doubts about our work, be ready to become soldiers of the peace and unity before the end of this year.” Keshe goes on to list how he and his foundation will end world hunger, provide clean water, free energy and his first order of business will be to repair the destruction created by the Fukushima disaster. This is a major statement of intent and no doubt a casting down of the guantlet to challenge =============== NOTES, from DrB : ===== I found it very hard to understand much of Keshe's language. (His accent is okay, but he swallows his words.) RAM: Wanted to know more about how MK's plasma program will work. Thought that marijuana could remediate the ground, only part of the problem Keshe: (He talks about "their" plan, not how his will work !) Their plan is to freeze everything around the reactor - he thinks it cannot be sustained. Cesium is in the ground, and in the water, headed towards US and So.America. China may be hiding information. RAM: Japan may have been storing weapons grade plutonium at Fukishima (!) Keshe: Will release Free Energy technology. Thinks he may be training "millions of scientists" ================

Some Elliott wave guys think a Low has been made = (2) (3) Tony Caldaro thinks we may have just seen the "A" wave of an A-B-C down - with Primary B to come ? === >Tony-C: http://caldaro.wordp...d-then-and-now/ . We have a completed Major A @ $1524, a completed Major B @ $1798, and potentially a completed Major C @ $1181 at the December low. Should this be correct we could now witness a 38.2% retracement of the entire first decline, ($1924-$1179), into the $1460 area over the next 3-8 months. This would represent a $280 rise. Which is also similar to the $220+ rises of Primary B and Primary X during the last bear market. “History often repeats, but is never exactly the same.” You can follow Gold along with us using this link: http://stockcharts.c...269446/tenpp/10.

NOTES: West Kowloon and NT, versus Mid-Levels and HK Island (from AX) (1) Conte_Riccardo_Mancioni_di_Montalcini (23 hrs ago) ========== Living off HK Island is not a compromise, it's an added bonus. Every time I bring my small daughter to the playground I see new expat faces. Clearly there are more and more expats who realise that cleaner air, greener grass, and more space can be found off HK Island. Does anybody have access to Bloomberg, and is able to plot the changes in price over the last 10 years between Kowloon Tong, HK Island, NT East and NT West? You will find that over the last 5 years (or even 10 years) HK Island has gone up slower than the other areas. HK Island is simply not a very attractive place to live. It's overcrowded, overpolluted, and all the other negative attributes you can come up with... OffThePeak (21 hrs ago): ========== In a way you can find it by comparing Centaline indicies, and running ratios DATA Week : -CCLI : RobinPl: Dynast: TaikSh .// ParkAv : Sorrent / C'ribC Yr.End 2011--: 96.68 : 14,091 : 21,639 : : 9,877 /10,147 : 13,252 : 4,610 : 2012-: 115.78: 14,985 : 23,883 : 11,665 /11,161 : 16,316 : 6,053 : 2013-: 119.07: 14,407 : 23,181 : 10,936 /12,325 : 17,849 : 5,768 : ==== '11> 2012 : +19.8%:+6.34%:+10.4%:+18.1%/+9.99%:+23.1%:+31.3% 2013 : +23.2%:+2.24%:+7.13%:+10.7%/+21.5%:+34.7%:+25.1% ==== + Sorrento, in Kowloon stage was the best performer: +34.7% + Robinson Place, in Mid-levels, HK isl. was the worst: +2.24%* + The cheap one, Taikoo Shing, was the best on HK Island: +10.7% + Caribbean Coast, in Tung Chung, imho: was pushed down, by the launch of the Visionary, at lower prices than secondhand. Example: ( I may run some Ratios later, when I have more time) ======= * Look back to the thread from 1229 days ago (Aug. 2010), "What's Wrong with Mid-Levels?": http://hongkong.asiaxpat.com/forums/hong-kong-property/threads/135960/whats-wrong-with-the-mid-levels?/ + Over-Development + Air Pollution + Narrow Sidewalks + Traffic Jams The Conclusion of the article: "An area once praised for its privileged position in society with quiet streets, green areas, and open spaces, will soon be just another overcrowded and congested Hong Kong district. There is, however, one thing you can do, according to the think tank Designing Hong Kong: invest your money somewhere else - in a neighborhood that promises to be greener, more open and valuable in 20 years time." ========= > AX-thread: http://hongkong.asiaxpat.com/forums/hong-kong-property/threads/153278/the-state-of-the-hong-kong-property-market-(11)/

HK Property shares - "on the edge of the precipice?" Here's: Henderson Land / HK-12 ... update A break, followed by a fast rebound, is also possible OTHER stocks to monitor: ============ CheungKong/HK-1 : HangLung/HK-10 : HysanDevl/HK-14 SHK Prop./HK-16 : New World--/HK-17 : Sino Land/HK-83

Property stocks Cheap?, article in the SCMP "Stocks viewed as cutting through the talk of gloom" Analysts see promise in the shares of some HK developers, with the negative factors priced in "Deep discounts... may be under-estimating the resilience of the physical market and the valuation." + Bocom Int'l sees 20% gains in: Cheung Kong, Henderson Land, Wheelock + Jefferies likes: Cheung Kong, and New World BNP Paribas thinks property sector NAV's could fall by: 9 - 21 percent if: 1/ Assumed home prices fell by 40 percent 2/ Interest rates rise by 200 percent 3/ 20 percent fall in investment property rentals Cheung Kong (HK-1) is one of the most popular because: "NAV is least effected, with only 21 percent exposure to the HK market" Others: + Kerry Properties : 35 percent + New World : 44 percent Most effected: + Sino Land : 70 percent Discounts to NAV: ================== : - Price - : - N.A.V. - : Discount : 2008-disc. HK-01 / Cheung Kong- : $120.30 : $182.30 : 35 Pct. -- : 34 Pct. HK-16 / SHK Properties : $ 96.40 : $172.00 : 44 Pct. -- : 55 Pct. HK-83 / Sino Land------ : $ 10.24 : $ 17.35 : 41 Pct. -- : 64 Pct. HK-17 / New World----- : $ 09.66 : $ 19.30 : 50 Pct. -- : 72 Pct. New World : "has 44 percent of its properties in the resilient luxury sector in HK and Kowloon" (Note: I question some of these assumptions, such as: the idea that CK is better off with more properties in China. The China market is vulnerable too ! Tom Holland says: "A healthy China would set interest rates at 10 percent". Most property stocks are now testing their 2013 Lows. It makes sense to wait, to see if support will hold. Perhaps not.)

Nice chart. 2014 looks promising for the White metal (and the yellow one too!)

Thanks to "easy finance" there is potential for a fast run-up in UK Housing in 2014 DrBubb, on 02 Jan 2014 - 10:59 AM, said: =

"For the dumbfire way - wait for the breakout first. No point in trying to pick a bottom. Anyway - it is easier to play the shares (but don't tell anyone!)" The bottom in UK House Prices (Rest of UK) was months ago. and we picked it here on GEI: /see: A FINAL Rally in London property? How to play it. in General Discussions / Started by DrBubb, 30 Apr 2013 > http://www.greenenergyinvestors.com/index.php?showtopic=17737 Selling Time? Maybe soon - Especially if you SELL-in-London, and BUY-Cheaper-outside I don't think the Last rally will go on quite so long as Nadeem W's chart shows: The Property shares are likely to peak BEFORE property prices, and may give an early warning Here's BDEV / Barratt Developments ... update A breakout above the 12-mos high of 360p, could conceivably take BDEV to resistance near 500p, or even up to 600-700p

a better choice than London, i reckon In London they are "closing the Tax Loophole" Rental round-up Rental prices are rising more slowly than purchase prices, particularly in the most sought-after areas. In prime central London, rental returns are often below three per cent. But renters feel the strain much more keenly than owners. Rent leaves your bank account every month, while a rise or fall in the value of your house remains theoretical. Sadly, 2014 does not bear many glad tidings for renters. Mark Carney, the Governor of the Bank of England, has said that he will only consider raising interest rates when unemployment falls below seven per cent – unlikely next year. Capital views The big news in the Autumn Statement was that capital gains tax is being introduced on foreign owners from 2015. While there is a slight chance that this will have a negative impact on the market, most experts think that London will continue to tick along. “It’s an easy and populist win for the Chancellor, George Osborne,” adds Turner. “It closes what many will see as a tax loophole. This is unlikely to have much impact on the market.” Fionnuala Earley of Hamptons International agrees. “The Chancellor is keen to be seen to be doing something to cool rapid house price growth in London, but in reality the proportion of foreign buyers is smaller than one might think. Seventy per cent of buyers in London are British nationals, and most of the remainder are resident.”

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