ACORE Thread: Learning DISCERNMENT (2016 thread)

[Softlywinged]

 

 

Dave Schmidt: In a Quiet Zone

What a joke/liar/scam artist this guy is....I'm assuming he'll be fading away altogether soon. He spouts off about 'show me the money and who's gonna pay for it' all the time since the Amba entered the scene and always tells folks he never led people astray like other gurus but I remember when he first started speaking out and his shows were "who wants to be a millionaire" which you can't find anymore unless it's a blog of someone else's....he's conveniently 'disappeared them' like I think he will do soon too. He lives in my neck of the woods. If you google him you will see a lot of his links are now conveniently gone but there's blogs from others about him

 

If you notice he's doing the same thing TVOP / GMOP / GOLD FISH REPORT is doing which is changing the subject to other things...his being the Annunaki (for now)

 

http://www.dinarrecaps.com/our-blog/dave-schmidt-so-who-wants-to-be-a-millionaire

[drbubb]

Softly,

You are right, Dave's not steady. He's shifty, changing his position as soon as it is challenged by reality.

 

Even Ron admitted today that he was wrong about Swissindo and wrong about the Ambassador.

(He is also wrong about the I-Hate-Ron Club)

 

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But in his admission, there is not desire to apologize, and go back and unbanned those he banned for warning him.

 

Ron being Ron, he has to stay stubbornly wrong on something - so he says,

"I still think I am right on RUSA." Then he goes no to telling us that Tim Turner is in jail.

 

Who got him to admit he was wrong on Swissindo?

Probably Peter, his host in Australia

 

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[Thunter]

Ron seems in this this latest video to be tiring of the pi-in-the-sky by and by schemes he has been involved with. Says he is only interested in things that manifest themselves now. I think he is coming down from his Australia high and beginning to drift back toward despair. Ron seems acutely aware that his time is running out, and that he may never get those 72 virgins (he wants them here on earth, though). As some who have watched Ron's videos for years might know, Ron is heavily into pornography... as a "spiritual" experience, of course. He has talked about it several times.

 

Despite the sometimes high language he uses, it always comes back to Ron wanting whatever benefits Ron. His narcissism is rarely far from the surface.

[Softlywinged]

you two crack me up....especially the 72 virgins LOL

He's too wishy-washy....he got close when he mentioned a few video's back that his dream has 'lessened' since he's upset people on youtube (which makes NO sense) but he probably will never be able to say he was wrong (narcissists can't)...only that they had the right direction of his visions of a better world.
Now he's changed to he only believes in RUSA but RUSA was selective of who could be in this new Republic and wanted to change our constitution when our organic de jure is flawless, unfortunately we haven't been running on it since 1860/61 and it was totally shelved in 1871.
He says he wants to be 'somewhere' where change for the good has actually happened. Move to Russia Ron because it's happening there.

Remember when he said this?

 

"You state in this video "most people don't investigate anything, they don't question anything, they are just able to be given a line of BS and they fall for it and they eat the BS over and over and over again and think that's the reality".

Really Ron, do tell us more...since you were the one who supported the BS of OPPT, RUSA, SwissIndo and the Red Dragon and you did NO research, just banned folks who tried to tell you they were scams...what a hypocrite you are!!!!

paradoxman316

1:17 PM

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Rep

I see things differently than I used to; and, I don't like the way I see some things now. I fight to remain as optimistic as possible. And, btw, I still think OPPT and other visions of a better world were right along the lines of my world vision since childhood. I am NOT a hypocrite; in fact, I have done my best to tell my truth throughout my life. Yes, I banned a lot of people who were totally insensitive to the challenges I was and still face. If you don't like it, GO AWAY!

[Softlywinged]

 

 

Yes, I banned a lot of people who were totally insensitive to the challenges I was and still face. If you don't like it, GO AWAY!

 

He can't even be honest with that and instead make it where people were insensitive to challenges he was facing. He talks about lying and destroying in his last video while he omits that he destroyed anyone's comments that were contrary to his 'message' and in fact banned them so other readers couldn't see truth, then switches it to people were insensitive by telling him the truth that he was backing the very things he says he's opposed to.

[Jeffrey]

Ron is going to get real boring real soon. There's no new prosperity groups out there and Ron has no pending legal battles.

[drbubb]

You know that means....

He will soon try to reconcile with the Ambassador

 

WHY NO RESEARCH?

 

Ron seems to think there are only two choices:

 

+ Embrace a Prosperity scheme and run with it

+ Do not embrace the scheme

 

There's a third choice that he never tried:

 

+ Examine it, and RESEARCH it

 

It might actually be interesting to his listeners if he tried that, and invited listeners on his channel to help in the process

 

... Test1-# : Test2-strip# : TEST2

[drbubb]

RON BLAMES GOD again, for creating an imperfect world

 

6-14-16 – WILL THE REAL GOD PLEASE DO SOMETHING

 

Published on Jun 13, 2016

All my life I've been a believer, even more than that: I was convinced I actually knew God and had a personal relationship. I'm about halfway through listening to a 6-hour video sent to me by a friend, which I normally wouldn't do. This is an exception. Frankly, it pisses me off! I am being reminded just what kind of God we are dealing with on this hell-hole of a planet. If God is love, as the Black-eyed Peas rightly asked: where is the love? Why would demons even be allowed to have the upper hand for any period of time? How would any intelligent being come to the conclusion that terrorism will somehow make the human race better? How could I have been so blinded as to ever think this mess has a good intention? Time is running out, as I see it. Will the real God please do something! HELP! Quarantine the demons in solitary confinement until they can finally see themselves for what they are! I don't seek revenge; but justice would be wonderful if it would lead to true repentance.

 

(Another Possibility)

 

Earth is a Prison planet... And two warring groups were imprisoned here (along with some other prisoners)

... in the hopes that over centuries and millennia they would find a way to work things out.

 

They were given two major clues for how to resolve things:

 

+ One group would wipe out the other, and enslave the rest of the people

+ One group would discover logic and reason and spread it widely on the planet, and eventually the

old differences would be replaced by sweet reason

 

How are we doing? How is Ron doing?

(He doesn't seem to be very good at spreading logic and reason!

He's more into what he can take from others, and thereby enslave them into serving his needs)

[Softlywinged]

Ron, Ron, Ron....you said right there in your video that you've been sold a bill of goods via religion. You say that all religions seem to be tainted. Okay, you're on to a good start right there. Let's look at the beginning of your bible where it says "let US make man in our image" ....could this be a clue for you but your religious programming won't let you see further? I haven't even watched your video mentioned but the idea of the title alone tells me you're seeing it but you're still going to blame God in the end. Which God Ron? The one in your bible or the one who also created the ones saying "let us make man in our image?" They have a God too.
You're on to a good start bud, now throw away what you've been programmed with, well, most of it and go within as Jesus told you to do....for there's your answer....if you'd just learn to listen to your inner being you'd know which God and you'd know that all those you've gotten so angry with for telling you that you're relying on easy pipe dreams never had to tell you that...if you'd gone within you'd have known it from the beginning.

[Thunter]

Ron just keeps rerunning the same tired complaints. He is stuck in a loop of self-pity and despair.

 

Ron, get a grip, man. The calvary ain't comin' to save us. If you want to help mankind, get off your rear, stop watching nutcase videos 24/7, and go out and help someone. What good are your endless 10 minute video rants, other than bringing in paypal contributions from people far worse off financially than you are.

 

I've grown sick of crooked narcissists claiming to love their fellow man. Ron loves nobody but himself.

[Softlywinged]

Ron just keeps rerunning the same tired complaints. He is stuck in a loop of self-pity and despair.

 

Ron, get a grip, man. The calvary ain't comin' to save us. If you want to help mankind, get off your rear, stop watching nutcase videos 24/7, and go out and help someone. What good are your endless 10 minute video rants, other than bringing in paypal contributions from people far worse off financially than you are.

 

I've grown sick of crooked narcissists claiming to love their fellow man. Ron loves nobody but himself.

I've been sitting here regretting what I wrote above your comment like I've got all the answers...I don't and I can't edit or erase what I said...yet at the same time I sorta want it to stay just in case he does read it. I often wondered how he could continually quote the bible when the God portrayed in the Old Testament is a very evil, jealous, condemning and punishing God.

I have an ex sister in law who can never be wrong and believes everything the msm tells her and condemns anyone who doesn't see things as she does and belittles them further by saying " I will keep you in my prayers for your blindness" and I just read something she wrote on my son's wall to his friends and I almost got on there and explained what a hateful bitter old crone she is and then thought....haven't I pretended to be a know-it-all enough today and all I'd be doing is in one breath making his friends feel a little bit better over the hateful comments she said but more I'd be spewing my own hate at her actions and stupidity so I just walked away.

But anyway, after reading your comment I thought oh my goodness, she and Ron are so much alike.

[Softlywinged]

 

 

"the friar in his hate ron group says he will close the ron hate group if you grant him an interview on your channel."

This was copy pasted from under RVD's video today.

 

 

 

LIAR!!! This was after you were going to the gym daily and started when you were losing your home and people were pointing out that you DID have a mortgage !!!

[Softlywinged]

OFFER TO RVD:

 

"Actually, he remains a good communicator, with a strong voice (better than mine)

I wish he had something more useful to say !

I think my content is loads more truthful and on-target. But he communicates better through the Youtube medium." - DrBubb

 

I wonder if we might try to get the best of Both Worlds

 

I will make an offer to Ron - I will do an interview with Ron,

wherein we can ask each other 5 questions - to be agreed ahead of time.

(I will promise not to beat up on Ron, but rather to try to resolve our differences

 

We can both record it, so there will be little chance for selective editing.

 

Would people find that interesting?/

 

 

I see nothing about closing down the site, do you?

[Softlywinged]

Let's break down Ron's latest video.

 

Ron starts off strong by arguing fiat currency is fraud. Sadly it's not fraud, that's the system of currency we use in this country. And at the end of the day it doesn't matter what they loaned you. If Ron had borrowed a bag of beans, he still has to pay the beans back per the terms of the agreement he signed. And of course, Ron sure didn't seem to think the money was fake when he got it and used it to buy a real physical house.

 

Ron then makes a gold standard argument. Same basic problem. Even if the United States switched back to the gold standard, Ron still wouldn't have repaid the loan and he'd still be evicted. He's beating a dead horse, even if tomorrow we switched to using clams as money, he'd still be screwed.

 

Ron thinks that there is only one person that is critical of him that is posting under multiple aliases.

 

Ron says he doesn't owe money. This is patently false. It is a matter of public record that Ron owed about $500,000 to PNC bank by April 2011 and $30,000 in unpaid property taxes back in November of 2009:

 

http://web1.brevardclerk.us/oncoreweb/showdetails.aspx?id=8149386&rn=6&pi=0&ref=search

http://web1.brevardclerk.us/oncoreweb/showdetails.aspx?id=7378130&rn=31&pi=2&ref=search

 

Now Ron has no legitimate grounds for arguing these records are incorrect for a very simple reason. Ron has repeatedly stated that he never paid the mortgage and that he never paid property taxes. That probably is worth underlining since even if Ron had repaid the mortgage, he would still be evicted over the property taxes. Florida, for context, does not have a state income tax. State government services are mostly paid via sales tax revenue while county services are funded through property taxes. Which is why the $30,000 in unpaid property tax was owed to Brevard County instead of Florida State.

 

Ron argues that if you loan someone money and they die, they don't have to pay it back. Two problems. Ron's not dead and it ain't true. The dead guy's estate still has to deal with that debt.

 

Ron argues that FDIC insures loans and mortages. It does not. Mortgage default insurance is done through private insurers and not all mortgages are insured because there's no law requiring insurance. Interestingly, while researching this, it does turn out that Canada requires mortgage default insurance by law for high risk mortgages.

 

https://www.fdic.gov/consumers/assistance/protection/mortgages.html

 

Ron then argues that because his mortgage is insured the bank doesn't suffer a loss in case of default and they don't have to take the house.

 

Problem 1. It's not clear if Ron's loan was insured.

Problem 2. Even if true, it just moves the problem down the line. The bank doesn't suffer a loss but the insurance company does and everyone else ends up paying for Ron's default.

Problem 3. Basic common sense should tell you that default insurance does not protect you from eviction. Otherwise you could go buy a $10 million home with a mortgage, get mortgage insurance, default on the loan and end up with a $10 million house you paid nothing for.

Problem 4: I haven't been able to find an example of a mortgage insurance contract so this is speculative but I guarantee the insurance does not cover 100% of the loaned amount. I suspect the insurance probably only covers the net loss to the bank. So in the case of a $250,000 loan default, banks auctions the house after foreclosure for $200,000, the insurance would only cover the $50,000 net loss.

 

Ron then argues that the collateral for a loan cannot be modified at a later date. Arguing that only Dr. Mary's home was collateral and that the bank cannot later add a second house as collateral.

 

Quoting directly from the 2011 court judgement against Ron:

 

http://web1.brevardclerk.us/oncoreweb/showdetails.aspx?id=8149386&rn=47&pi=3&ref=search

 

 

Now the key phrase is equitable lien. Now this is from a law blog that explains the concept:

 

http://www.jimersoncobb.com/blog/2011/12/pleading-requirements-for-establishing-an-equitable-lien-claim/

 

 

Now unjust enrichment is self explanatory but equitable estoppel means:

 

 

Now this is not a complex situation. If Ron was able to default on the loan while keeping what he purchased with the loan, namely the $256,000 home, Ron would be enriched at the expense of PNC bank. That's why the court granted the bank a lien on the property. And there's room for speculation that this may have been based around Ron lying on the mortgage contract about his ownership of the home.

 

This is a Florida Supreme Court case that talks for pages and pages about equitable liens. Including a discussion of a similar case:

 

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8520620194856061793&q=havoco+v.+hill&hl=en&as_sdt=4,10

 

 

Essentially if you have right to have money returned to you but that money was used to buy a chunk of property, you can get an equitable lien on that property.

 

Ron then brings up the wet ink signature argument. Discussed to death. It's bullshit, you don't need the original, copies are fine. Particularly when Ron is not disputing that he signed the mortgage. Losing the original doesn't invalidate anything.

 

Ron brings up the securitization argument. Another dead argument. Even if the bank securitizes your loan you still have to repay it. And of course, the moment Ron defaults on the loan, any security backed by his mortgage becomes worthless.

 

 

Feb of 2016 is NOT 2 years ago , anyone new to this site, just start at post #1 and you can see when the so called "hate Ron group" started and why

[FriarN]

MORE DELUSIONAL SPIN from Mr Van Dyke

 

6-15-16 – WHY HAVE I BLOCKED SO MANY PEOPLE?

 

"There are 100 -200 people I blocked ... probably most of them are Friar"

 

BULLSHIT, Ron!! You are really full of it. I have used a handful of names for various reasons -

But not the 10+ or dozens that you seem to think

 

And the "woman you blocked" was cheated by the Ambassador and her team, they lied about access to funding, and took her money.

Then, they called her names in one of their podcasts. I have thicker skin than she has, so I have continued to post, while she became shy under the persistent attacks.

 

The fact is, there are well over a dozen people posting on this thread - and many of them have been blocked from your channel.

 

As usual, your delusions have gotten the better of you!

People are losing or have lost any confidence in your credibility

 

You should read the I-Hate-Ron-Club thread - it is more about seeking the truth with a bit of humor, rather than stirring hatred towards Ron.

 

"the source (of this thread) is a cabal-influenced thing" - that's NONSENSE too!

 

And there is documentary proof that you defaulted on a mortgage loan from the bank :

 

Ronald T Van Dyke - Busted!

 

Ron signed A Mortgage instrument, in July 2005 - checkout the link in the video!

 

Please stop lying about that !

[Softlywinged]

 

And the "woman you blocked" was cheated by the Ambassador and her team, they lied about access to funding, and took her money."

Then, they called her names in one of their podcasts. I have thicker skin than she has, so I have continued to post, while she became shy under the persistent attacks.

 

She was never even given a chance to have her say because the Ambassador told lies and told Ron to block her and Ron did without once again any investigation or research

[Jeffrey]

It's as simple as this: Ron had to block us because any factual discussion of the mortgage situation would endanger the flow of donations to Ron.

 

And Ron still continues to lie about the mortgage situation. It doesn't matter if Ron didn't have a mortgage on his house, he purchased it by mortgaging Dr. Mary's home then didn't pay it off. His eviction was lawful and frankly I wouldn't want to live in a system where Ron's eviction was not lawful.

 

most of them are Friar

 

 

If we're all Friar then Friar really needs some therapy because his multiple personalities are pretty discordant. There's differences of age, politics, gender and spiritual leanings, among the posters.

[drbubb]

Ron's Utopian Vision?

 

 

His eviction was lawful and frankly I wouldn't want to live in a system where Ron's eviction was not lawful.

 

I agree.

In a world like that:

 

+ Banks would stop lending money to anyone

+ Depositors would get wiped out

+ Home prices would collapse, wiping out much wealth

+ Homebuilding would grind to a halt, killing off many, many jobs

 

Is this the Utopia that Ron imagines? If so, I want no part of it

[drbubb]

Maybe we should remake this film scene:

 

In case anyone was wondering...

"I AM THE FRIAR !"

 

 

/ 2:

 

(and this too):

 

The Lyrics

hey little girl here in nottingham,
have you seen robin hood and the other merry men?
are they still shy-er?
Mr tuck, call me friar

robin hood baby, was he good to you
did he rob from the rich and give it to the poor
where's the town crier?
oh oh oh I'm the friar

sometimes it's like someone took a bow and arrow
shot me so full and put a big assed penetrator
in the middle of my skull..

some nights I wake up with the sheriff really mad,
and I think I'm loving Marion way too bad,
only she can do english fire..
oh oh oh I'm the friar

==

> http://www.amiright.com/parody/80s/brucespringsteen67.shtml

[Softlywinged]

"I am the Friar!!!"

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/20551436.jpg

[drbubb]

Maybe it is time to give Ron a rest, and let his viewership continue to decline.

 

(I think without the humor and intelligence that posters on this site have brought to him, his audience might have

declined by another 50%)

 

What about THIS - What do people make of Laura Eisenhower?

Do you think she was really approached to go to Mars.

(She might be on a different planet already)

 

Laura Eisenhower - mind control, secret space, Corey Goode + - Ron James' Bigger Questions

[Softlywinged]

who knows? I believe in my heart that the cabal is always steps ahead of us and that MK ULTRA is a reality...could they have gotten to her and Corey Goode and brainwashed them so well that they believe everything they're saying making it impossible to know if someone is making this all up? Will watch it now.

I see a lost cause for RVD -but- this site and those concerned may have saved a lot of people of their hard earned $$ by exposing his lies.

Great parody by the way

[Softlywinged]

 

What about THIS - What do people make of Laura Eisenhower?

Do you think she was really approached to go to Mars. ~DrBubb

 

 

Again, who knows ?

I love the way she sees things though...great video...thanks!!

[Thunter]

Ron acknowledged that he borrowed money against the old lady's home, what he called a "bridge loan," until he could sell that property and pay it back.

 

When a lawsuit was filed against him, and he was never able to take ownership of the property to sell it, Ron claims that he didn't have to pay back the loan because "everyone knows that if you can't pay back a loan because of circumstances beyond your control that you don't lawfully have to." It would be nice if that was the way it works; but, as Ron found out, his "belief" was wrong. The bank attached the house he bought with that money, and eventually took it.

 

Ron told the bank when he borrowed the original money that he was the owner of the old lady's home (he apparently had a bogus claim as the trustee of a bogus trust putting him in control of the old lady's assets), and that it was unencumbered, which he knew not to be true. It's amazing to me that he didn't get charged with fraud in the original scam.

[drbubb]

" The bank attached the house he bought with THEIR money, and eventually took it."

 

Yep. That's it in a nutshell.

Post the truth on Ron's channel, or try to discuss it, and he will ban you for life.

 

Does he really think that he gets to borrow money, fail to pay it back, and keep the house he bought with the bank's money?

 

Someone should ask Ron's small band of remaining followers how right they think that is